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Not at all. Sure, it might be expensive to go all the way to the SCOTUS, but you can start at a lower court (naturally) and get funding to finance the case if you win at the lower level.
The only way is when debt starts to effect the lifes of middle class people in actually hurting them and they realize it. Then nature of survival takes place.Welfare at degree done now is really natural. in time too few will not be able or want to support too many.
No, there's not. A basic rule of government intervention in the market is that whatever you subsidize, you get more of. Subsidize poverty and... well... you get the idea.
Let churches, schools, soup kitchens, private donors and all other forms of voluntary charity be the social safety net people want.
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I didn't even understand welfare until recently; the program is ridiculous. Unemployment should suffice for getting back on your feet while finding a job. If you cannot find a job the other organizations mentioned above are plenty of safety net to those need additional help.
So, once again you make a false assertion and then (per your past posts) will claim that I must disprove it. Please just take the time to research budget expenditures on the federal budget website. Medicaid is a welfare beniefit.
So, food stamps are not hand outs because the recipients are low wage workers? Do tell how that piece of alchemy works. This is a classic logical fallacy. The fact that they work (and not all do) is completely unrelated to the fact that food stamps are a handout.
Humor me.
What logical fallacy is it?
If you are mad about working people receiving food stamps, pay them a livable wage.
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They are getting something for nothing, yet you say it isn't a handout? Interesting. . .
Everyone in this country gets something for nothing.
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Originally Posted by shiftymh
Make welfare a zero interest loan instead of a giveaway.
What purpose would that serve?
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Nice hyperbolic statement, but you put words in my mouth. I never said, nor implied, any such thing. I guess if you can't say something factual, making stuff up will work for you.
Actually you did. You are implying that we should cut welfare. What is your replacement idea for feeding starving children?
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Originally Posted by tottsieanna
Defense spending doesn't bother me. One of the government jobs is to protect our country and I think the men and women who are serving deserve benefits.
What does our bloated military actually protect us from?
Social spending is only that large if you add in Social Security and Medicare, which are self-funded and not a federal budget item. It's true that Medicare only has about 6 more years before it has to start tapping the general fund, but Social Security is good for decades yet.
Wrong and wrong.
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Medicare is not self funded. It requires lots of general fund money. Social Security will be insolvent in less than 20 years and likewise will need to be funded from the general fund or benefits cut by approximately two-thirds. Right now the self-funded portion of Medicare is self-funded, but it as currently enacted never was intended to be entirely self-funded.
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell
SS was set up to be a worker funded program. Boomers paid extra taxes for 30 years to build that huge trust fund, which is good to 2037. Meanwhile, industry has been automating and eliminating workers. The obvious solution is to tax the machines that took the jobs. There will never be a need to fund SS from the general fund.
Wrong and wrong.
Social security and medicare are funded the same way everything else is funded;
The government issues an order to the bank to increase the value of the account designated to the party in question. Poof.
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So you believe we should end all social welfare programs? No SS, SSI, disability, Veterans benefits, food stamps, housing, energy assistance, work training, public schools, foster care, unemployment, health care, nursing homes, etc. for the poor?
Where would you prefer your tax dollars to go? More funding for corporate welfare, environment, research and development, national defense, law enforcement, politician's salaries, air force one, secrete service?
Yep. Corporations over people. It's the conservative way!
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Originally Posted by War Beagle
Make welfare as unpleasant and stigmatizing as possible. Don't provide anything beyond what is necessary to stay alive. Certainly do not provide things that are nicer than what the working poor can acquire.
It already is unpleasant and stigmatizing.
What country are you living in?!? If being poor and on welfare was so glamorous, why won't you do it?
I didn't even understand welfare until recently; the program is ridiculous. Unemployment should suffice for getting back on your feet while finding a job. If you cannot find a job the other organizations mentioned above are plenty of safety net to those need additional help.
Unemployment is an insurance program. The reason most insurance companies don't sell an unemployment policy is because of self selection risk.
Social security and medicare are funded the same way everything else is funded;
The government issues an order to the bank to increase the value of the account designated to the party in question. Poof.
When you say silly stuff like that, it destroys what little credibility you may have left. Banks are not making these one-legged journal entries on orders of the government. But if you understood anything about accounting, you'd know that.
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