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Old 12-18-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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As opposed to us, who supposedly practice Christianity. We have capital punishment of our own citizens, Guantanamo Bay, and let's not forget the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombs during WWII which killed about 129,000 people. Oh yeah, we also had the Japanese internment camps. And we still have wars going on even today which are killing more people at this very moment. And then we have the Catholic church pedophilia scandal as well. Now what were you saying about Islam being such a bad religion? Hypocrisy much? I am not religious. I don't practice any religion. But saying Islam is bad, and we are good just because the majority of American citizens are Christians and not Muslims is patently ridiculous.
Disparaging the bomb drop is what they do in high schools today?

Dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of Japanese lives, they were life savers and not destroyers.

Let's learn some real history.

Operation Downfall was the planned land invasion of the Japanese home islands.

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General Marshall, in conference with President Truman, estimated 31,000 in 30 days after landing in Kyushu. Admiral Leahy estimated that the invasion would cost 268,000 casualties. Personnel at the Navy Department estimated that the total losses to America would be between 1.7 and 4 million with 400,000 to 800,000 deaths. The same department estimated that there would be up to 10 million Japanese casualties. The ‘Los Angeles Times’ estimated that America would suffer up to 1 million casualties.
Just a question for you out of sheer curiosity.

What would you have done differently if you were President Truman on July 1, 1945?

You knew about the bomb, you knew about the estimated casualties for Operation Downfall not just American casualties but Japanese as well.

What is it, be exact please, you would have done to avoid dropping two bombs and ending the war inside of a week?

Total surrender to the Imperial Japanese forces?

Just curious.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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Man, those Muslims sure love to kill each other.
We will eventually see more troubles in the US and other free countries.

Islam and Freedoms do not seem to work well together.

It's hard to understand.
Very true.

Muslim countries are more peaceful when brutal tyrants are in charge. Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi were bad guys for sure, but they definitely kept order & kept the extremists in check.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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I don't know how any woman could be religious. Both Christianity and Islam are insanely misogynistic
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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I don't know how any woman could be religious. Both Christianity and Islam are insanely misogynistic
With Christian misogyny being a tiny fraction of the modern Christian world, isolated to some fundamentalist sects and cults, numbering in the thousands or tens of thousands, and Islamic misogyny numbering in the hundreds of millions.

There's an awful lot of moral relativism going on here. The topic was the beheading of 150 women by Islamic State. Exactly how many Christians have beheaded women in the past 500 years or so?
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Not meaning to pull the gender card, but ISIS primarily focused on beheading innocent, unarmed YOUNG MEN, but newstories didn't even focus on that. All I read was "ISIS massacres citizens, including women & children". If you looked beyond the media and watched those graphic videos - YOUNG men were the main targets. They were lined up, blindfolded, assaulted, taunted and then brutally murdered. I have yet to see an ISIS video showing a woman getting killed.
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Disparaging the bomb drop is what they do in high schools today?

Dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of Japanese lives, they were life savers and not destroyers.

Let's learn some real history.

Operation Downfall was the planned land invasion of the Japanese home islands.



Just a question for you out of sheer curiosity.

What would you have done differently if you were President Truman on July 1, 1945?

You knew about the bomb, you knew about the estimated casualties for Operation Downfall not just American casualties but Japanese as well.

What is it, be exact please, you would have done to avoid dropping two bombs and ending the war inside of a week?

Total surrender to the Imperial Japanese forces?

Just curious.
Patton said it best.

Long protracted wars of occupation just don't work well. Get in, neutralize, get the hell out. Just be aware of the consequences of leaving behind the vacuum and the possibility that what you get out of it might be worse. The US is pretty directly responsible for allowing ISIS to rise to power. Saddam kept them in check. He wasn't a nancy and was willing to do what was necessary. We are not. Let the other guy do the dirty work, especially when it's none of your businesses anyway. Now we're pretty much screwed. If we go in with the heavy hand necessary to restore order in the region, we'll come off as the bad guy. If we don't.... well, I guess we'll find out. ISIS has the potential of becoming a much greater threat to American security than Saddam ever was, however.
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Typical to place the blame on the women. Not unlike all the domestic violence killings that seem to be rampant here.
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: NC
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Not meaning to pull the gender card, but ISIS primarily focused on beheading innocent, unarmed YOUNG MEN, but newstories didn't even focus on that. All I read was "ISIS massacres citizens, including women & children". If you looked beyond the media and watched those graphic videos - YOUNG men were the main targets. They were lined up, blindfolded, assaulted, taunted and then brutally murdered. I have yet to see an ISIS video showing a woman getting killed.
That's because women are more useful to them. They are kidnapped, forced into slavery, and raped by the barbaric thugs.

ISIS publishes guide telling fighters how to buy, sell and abuse captured women | Daily Mail Online
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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More beheadings? Nothing other than business as usual.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Canada - Pakistan
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This is not Islam . Islam does not preach all this. They are barbarians. Rape is the biggest sin in Islam so how these people legitimize marriage by rape. Unbelievable. They are here only to tarnish the name of Islam nothing more. There agenda is to present Islam as a savage religion. I feel ashamed when they do the heinous crimes and call them Muslims.
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