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Old 12-29-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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Oh yes they did, and they played nicely into the manipulative hands of those right wingnuts who were drooling over Iraq's oilfields. Of course, things did not work out for these right wingnuts and their corporate sponsors either. In the end, the US squandered billions and left with its tail between its legs, the Iraqi's were handed a failed and completely ruined nation, and the extremists were given a golden opportunity to work their magic. Happy now?
Yes, democrat politicians share the blame for supporting the resolution to invade Iraq in 2003.

But in your context of 'whiny liberals,' that means university professors and hollywood celebrities, many did NOT support an invasion of Iraq.

Let's not confuse things shall we?
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:47 AM
 
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Yes, democrat politicians share the blame for supporting the resolution to invade Iraq in 2003.

But in your context of 'whiny liberals,' that means university professors and hollywood celebrities, many did NOT support an invasion of Iraq.

Let's not confuse things shall we?
Yes, maybe not Iraq at all times, but they sure were at the forefront for bombing Assad's Syria, which is what I was really referring to.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:27 AM
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't quite think it was whiny liberals that were advocating the invasion of Iraq in 2003 based on false and misguided pretenses.
Good correction.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:36 AM
 
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Yes, maybe not Iraq at all times, but they sure were at the forefront for bombing Assad's Syria, which is what I was really referring to.
Yes, I agree with you on that one.
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The Syrians have been begging for help from the UN for 3 years (2011-2013) before ISIS took UN place.
And the UN has consistently said it was an internal issue and thus they won't intercede. That being said if Assad is as bad as you say, then why didn't the 22 nations that make up the Arab League intercede and deal with the issue?
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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So the worst dictator in the history of the middle east is the solution ? and God bless him !
a dictator who killed more than 250.000 and injured hundreds of thousands and forced 3 millions to run out the country AND destroyed most of Syria is the solution !!

I pray that you get a copy of him to rule your country... Amen.
The worst?

Not even in the past 66 years.
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...ing-muslims-2/
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:00 PM
 
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That is like saying Hitler was the key to a stable Germany. That is what many thought then also. Assad like Saddam killed many more than ISSI is like to for years to come. States always use their power to achieve their ends such as democracy; nothing new in that been going on since history was recorded.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:26 AM
 
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That is like saying Hitler was the key to a stable Germany. That is what many thought then also. Assad like Saddam killed many more than ISSI is like to for years to come. States always use their power to achieve their ends such as democracy; nothing new in that been going on since history was recorded.
It is the foreign funded rebels that are to blame for the humanitarian disaster in Syria, not Assad. And a lawless Syria run by ISIS and other rebel gangs, will be much more dangerous and disastrous than a Syria run by Assad.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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the Assad is the worst dictator ever, The link you posted is about Arab-Israeli wars not a Dictator against his people, .....
Since the Middle East is part of Asia, then all of Asia should be included. So here is another list.

Wars and casualties of the 20th and 21st Century
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:15 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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So the worst dictator in the history of the middle east is the solution ? and God bless him !
a dictator who killed more than 250.000 and injured hundreds of thousands and forced 3 millions to run out the country AND destroyed most of Syria is the solution !!

I pray that you get a copy of him to rule your country... Amen.
We already did - Abraham Lincoln. The Civil War cost 620,000 lives ....... and yet the US stayed together (arguably for the better, to a large extent) and Lincoln is considered to be among the greatest of our Presidents.

Assad is evil, but at least he has always been mainly concerned with his own country. That's not the case if Muslim extremists take over .... they would then turn their attention to helping a worldwide caliphate develop.

There are only two possibilities: a secular strongman, or a Muslim theocracy. There's no chance of a lasting democracy, because the poorly educated masses would simply vote in a theocracy.

It's kind of like old-style cancer treatments: they had to get rid of the cancer because it would inevitably kill the patient - but the treatment made the patient desperately ill and could itself kill him. But we can't be the surgeons again, except for limited help.
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