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Old 01-23-2015, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Why was a woman who lives in Hayden, Idaho of all places carrying around a gun with a round chambered, ready to fire and with the safety disengaged?
Long story short, as a civilian, one is expected to avoid any place where they would need a gun for protection. Ie,

"Now that you an carry a gun, don't go anyplace that you wouldn't go if you didn't have a gun."

So, that addresses the question of "Why were your carrying a gun there of all places?".

As to round chambered and ready to fire, if you only have one hand available, such as because the other is trying to hold off someone attacking you, then you are out of luck if you need two hands to ready the gun to fire.

As far as safety disengaged, there is insufficient information to be able to answer that question.
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Old 01-23-2015, 06:43 PM
 
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Lightbulb Focus on the New Specialty Purse Not The Gun.

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..............It would be interesting to find out if the handgun in question was a GLOCK. IIRC, Their :trigger/striker-fire principal (no external safety), would possibly allow this to happen if the child happened to pull the trigger.

Also it will be interesting to see if there will be any lawsuit filed against Glock if in fact that is the make of pistol.
It was not a Glock. The gun was in a specially designed purse, placed in a compartment that children aren't suppose to be able to open.

I have far more interest in what happened so the secure area of the child's late mother's purse could be opened by a two year old.

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Old 01-23-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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Long story short, as a civilian, one is expected to avoid any place where they would need a gun for protection. Ie,

"Now that you an carry a gun, don't go anyplace that you wouldn't go if you didn't have a gun."

So, that addresses the question of "Why were your carrying a gun there of all places?".

As to round chambered and ready to fire, if you only have one hand available, such as because the other is trying to hold off someone attacking you, then you are out of luck if you need two hands to ready the gun to fire.

As far as safety disengaged, there is insufficient information to be able to answer that question.
The mother did not live in Hayden. She was visiting relatives. She was originally from that area in North Idaho.

She lived in Blackfoot, ID on the east side of the state. Blackfoot is a 10K town between Idaho Falls and Pocatello. Think of it being on the Jackson Hole/Tetons side of the state.

Given Idaho's interstate and state roads, draw a map or calculate the time it would have taken her to drive to N. Idaho. Look how empty and alone some of that journey would be. She had to drive across southern ID and up the west side of ID almost from the southern state border to nearly the state and Canadian border.

Unless you've driven it, especially in winter, I'd reserve judgement about what safety precautions she took. I don't think the gun was the only thing she had with her in case she had a car problem on an isolated road.

Knowing the area, I think this was a tragic accident. She had a concealed weapons permit. Unless you know details of her life, maybe it is wiser to not write some comments.

When will it be enough that a young mother was accidentally killed by her 2 y.o. getting her gun from what was suppose to be childproof?

I haven't read every comment. There is a fund at a bank if anyone wants to help instead of dissecting a situation about which not much was released nationally. I hope someone posted that information too.

Mtn. States Resident (as in the same Rocky Mtns.in many western states). Closer than 200 miles from where the mother lived
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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The mother was negligent, and she inflicted trauma on her child. The mother is the guilty one, though she is dead. Mothers need to protect their children. She did not protect her child from inflicting harm on himself. He will suffer emotional harm as a result of the mother's negligence. If she were still alive, she should be criminally charged and lose custody of her children. This was not an accident, this was negligence.
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Old 01-24-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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https://www.pinterest.com/david6212/...ot-at-walmart/
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Old 02-12-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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Another one...

La. toddler picks up dad's gun, dies from gunshot - NY Daily News
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Another CARELESS GUN OWNER.... (Who shouldnt have a gun CAUSE THEY DO NOT TAKE PROPER CARE OF IT)
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Why hasn't the father been charged with gross negligence or reckless endangerment? If anyone deserves to, he does, leaving two handguns out where kids could find them, no safety on, along with two rifles. What's wrong with people?! He must not value his kids. What an airhead. Police need to start prosecuting irresponsible parents like this, who are a menace to their own kids. The thread of prosecution would make others be more careful.
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:45 PM
 
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Who cleans guns without unloading them first?
Allowing children unsupervised access to guns is a felony. Rarely does a DA prosecute these situations though because they believe the parents have suffered enough.
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Old 02-12-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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Who cleans guns without unloading them first?
Allowing children unsupervised access to guns is a felony. Rarely does a DA prosecute these situations though because they believe the parents have suffered enough.
They need to start prosecuting them, in order to send a message. There's been one of these toddler cases every month since last fall sometime. Judges need to get tough with careless parents.
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