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Bingo. Gun lovers have a habit of ignoring the fact that most criminals steal their guns from people who bought them legally in the first place, or from stores intending to sell them legally. They're much easier to come by when you've got virtually millions of them just laying around.
Didn't Canada just have 8 killed with a stolen handgun here the other day? Last I checked, cocaine is easy to buy here. It's been illegal for a while now...
So make a law that makes them legal in Canada. If there was not a demand there would not be the importation.
Do those illegal guns go in the hands of law abiding citizens ? If not, you think criminals won't be able to get guns?
Talking with a friend that is a former Canadian, she is very happy to be here and able to purchase firearms. And is taking full advantage of it. From what she has told me , there is a growing drug trade in Toronto , Serbians and other foreigners and where there are drugs there are firearms. They get funneled up from Detroit. So it doesn't look like it is the law abiding getting them..
I know it most likely won't happen, because you are the only country in the civilized world that equates guns with freedom.
Constitutions in other countries change with the times. It's not, nor should it be considered a sacred document. Keeping an amendment that is 200 years out of date is something other places wouldn't do, but then again, I still see people in the US write out cheques in grocery stores.
You've got some points. We, as Americans, have let our freedoms be slowly eroded away. We are slowly but surely killing off what makes us different and better than others.
Sadly at some point the citizens owning guns may be the only thing that stands between our freedoms and those that wish to totally remove them.
Didn't Canada just have 8 killed with a stolen handgun here the other day? Last I checked, cocaine is easy to buy here. It's been illegal for a while now...
Yes in Edmonton, a domestic dispute.
Cocaine easy to buy? Well, coming from an American that is rich. Isn't cocaine easy to buy practically anywhere?
As for the stolen gun, it emphasizes my point that the more legal guns out there, the more criminals will have access to them...as shown repeatedly in the U.S.
However one or two incidences are meaningless. You have to look at overall stats. Those stats prove, less guns, less gun violence.
You've got some points. We, as Americans, have let our freedoms be slowly eroded away. We are slowly but surely killing off what makes us different and better than others.
Sadly at some point the citizens owning guns may be the only thing that stands between our freedoms and those that wish to totally remove them.
Canada isn't perfect either. We are on constant watch of what is going here at home.
.......However one or two incidences are meaningless. You have to look at overall stats. Those stats prove, less guns, less gun violence.
How do propose to stop it?
If the Cottage Industry of Spain during WWII, if the bullet making in Israel's early years, or even what little it takes to make an AK-47 prove anything, it's that people with a little bit of land, a decent machine shop, and the will can make weapons.
They may not be perfect or ideal, but like the man with one eye in the kingdom of the blind, they would certainly have one up against the disarmed.
Cocaine easy to buy? Well, coming from an American that is rich. Isn't cocaine easy to buy practically anywhere?
I used to live in college housing and worked at a cheap chain resturant. I could have gotten 8 balls for free. My roommate did...I was just never into it. If cocaine is that easy, you think firearms could ever be difficult? Oh, the felons at the restaurant were packing, too. No, they never shot anyone. Most said they kept them for protection from their former "thug life" and I never heard of one being used.
As for the stolen gun, it emphasizes my point that the more legal guns out there, the more criminals will have access to them...as shown repeatedly in the U.S.
Make them illegal, and then ONLY criminals will have them. Thats even worse. We've gone from "even odds" to "slanted odds" in your encounter with the lawless.
However one or two incidences are meaningless. You have to look at overall stats. Those stats prove, less guns, less gun violence.
Canada isn't perfect either. We are on constant watch of what is going here at home.
And if things go badly? What will y'all do, fight 'em with hockey sticks? In all conflicts with an out of control government (read WW2 as an example) the one thing the resistance needed was weapons of all sorts. Do you somehow think Hitler would've been able to kill 6 million ARMED people as easy as he did? Government gone bad, prime example.
Does it get messy sometimes having the rights we do? Yes, yes it does. Do bad people take advantage of the rights the good have? Always. Since the dawn of time bad people took up weapons to take from others. Clubs and stones then bows and arrows, swords and knives and then guns.
So, the logical answer is to disarm the good people leaving them to depend on the myth that the police will save them?
Seriously? As recent events have shown the police, even with all their protective/offensive gear can't even totally protect themselves from bad people wanting to do harm, and not just by gun but axes,swords etc. So why should we be asked (told) to do more with nothing?
I fully stand by the idea "when you have seconds to live help is minutes away". We as citizens are the last line of defense against those that might want to take what we have be it property or life by force.
I have something for you to ponder. On your border with Montana for years every time some possibly armed criminal rushed the border the border officers would RUN, abandoning their station letting the criminal (or nutcase) free to enter Canada.
Why???? they were unarmed.
Do I blame them? No, I wouldn't want to face a possible armed person without anything more than a pen,baton and my voice.
So, what was done about this if anything?
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We are slowly but surely killing off what makes us different and better than others.
In all conflicts with an out of control government (read WW2 as an example) the one thing the resistance needed was weapons of all sorts. Do you somehow think Hitler would've been able to kill 6 million ARMED people as easy as he did? Government gone bad, prime example.
As recent events have shown the police, even with all their protective/offensive gear can't even totally protect themselves from bad people wanting to do harm, and not just by gun but axes,swords etc. So why should we be asked (told) to do more with nothing?
