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Old 12-30-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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Can the madness get any worse?
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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Another "responsible" gun owner wins the Darwin Award.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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^ Hey, let's not be so quick to judge. Maybe mom threatened her kid with a spankin' and he was just defending himself.
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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Not to make light of the horrible situation, but how is a 2 year old able to grab a loaded gun from a purse in a cart, and shoot themselves.

Ya it happened, but still.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Very sad and tragic.

As the report states it is very common up in that area to carry loaded weapons. I have no problem whatsoever with that proclivity, yet, of course, it sets you up for not particularly uncommon gun accidents of the sort.

I'll get grief from the those who cannot conceive of a life lived otherwise, but I chuckle while recalling chatting with a friend speaking of her father-in-law from rural Idaho and when borrowing his truck to go to the grocery store there she had to endure a 10 minute orientation of where the three loaded guns were hidden in the truck for those times when needed. I'm thinking to myself, in freaking rural safe Idaho (my family is from there) how can this be what is a cornerstone of everyday life? I just think the response to the actual threat is so often vastly over compensated that it can easily get you in trouble (if ever there was an understatement of a word.)

I grew up hunting and to this day enjoy target practice and skeet shooting occasionally but there is not one time in my 53 years of life that I ever wish I had or even slightly (and I've lived in and traveled frequently in those supposedly crazy dangerous cities all over the world) needed a gun in any other situation. Call me lackadaisical but if I am feeling I need several guns to defend myself from folks around me I'll just move.
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Old 12-30-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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Didn't something like this just happen a few weeks ago? A 2-yr-old found a gun on the floor at home, in the living room (wtf?!), and shot his mom dead with it?

Is anyone seeing the writing on the wall here? I guess everyone thinks, "that would never happen to me".

Guess again.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Not to make light of the horrible situation, but how is a 2 year old able to grab a loaded gun from a purse in a cart, and shoot themselves.

Ya it happened, but still.
He didn't shoot himself, he shot his mom.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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America's obsession with guns. What's that saying by pro gun owners, "guns don't kill people, they are inanimate objects..."

I know very little about guns but how could a 2 year old pull the trigger? Wouldn't a bullet also have to be in the chamber and no safety on?
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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I know very little about guns but how could a 2 year old pull the trigger? Wouldn't a bullet also have to be in the chamber and no safety on?
If the gun was a pistol, yes, a round would have to be in the chamber (which is how you have to carry a firearm if it's going to be useful in a self-defense situation). But you don't have to be strong to flick a safety off, and a toddler could easily do that unintentionally in the process of handling the gun.

And if the gun was a revolver, there is no safety, and if the gun is fully loaded there would be a round under the hammer no matter how the cylinder was turned. Revolvers have stiffer triggers than pistols, but a strong toddler (especially using two hands) could fire one.

The bottom line is that loaded firearms must ALWAYS be kept completely out of reach of small children. And that means that if the gun is being carried in a purse, that purse MUST remain in Mom's hands at all times, no exceptions. Junior can't be allowed to touch it, much less open it.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:02 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The bottom line is that loaded firearms must ALWAYS be kept completely out of reach of small children. And that means that if the gun is being carried in a purse, that purse MUST remain in Mom's hands at all times, no exceptions. Junior can't be allowed to touch it, much less open it.
Aren't gun owners required to get training in this sort of thing in order to get their license?
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