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Old 12-31-2014, 11:38 PM
 
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Dollar Store + Florida = enough said
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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It's a little disturbing that the vast majority of posters here think that physical violence to a child is the answer. The US is the only 'developed' country where people still resort to something as archaic as spanking.

If that was my kid? I'd arrange for him to spend at least a week somewhere volunteering. Ideally something where he's helping to build something for an underprivileged population, and interacting with them too.

The goal would be to teach him to respect things, and more importantly, people.

Really? First and foremost, you can't tell that he is already interacting with a underprivileged population?

Next, You're great with the advise and I'm sure you can "arrange" whatever you like but when this little darling tells you NO, what kind of force are you going to use to compel him to do it against his will? Some how I'm not overly confident he is going to volunteer willingly. So will the State be doing the violence and restraining in your stead?

Yes, I'm sure it is as easy for you to correct your children (that is if you actually have them) as it is for many of us because we taught them correctly from a young age and/or haven't had to deal with a child with extreme behavioral problems.

I don't spank. I don't have to. I was spanked twice that I remember and today I'm glad I was.

Lastly, I didn't know Canada, Australia and the UK were undeveloped?

You have Sweden and Germany that has made the front page many times on their removal of parental rights to corporal punishment. Soon followed many of the Socialist European countries. Since 2000 there has been something like 40 others that has banned spanking.

Are we not somewhere around 200 countries on this planet?

I read a poll where 90% of Aussie parents believed spanking was acceptable. Don't know where it was but here is a very tiny clip of a article I just read
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It seems that Australians have more or less made up their minds. Kids need nothing more than a good spanking from time to time to learn life’s lessons. In fact, according to our Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, sometimes it’s the only thing that will get through to them. They actually ‘need’ a slap from time to time according to the PM.
A Prime-Ministerial endorsement of physical punishment validates the 70 to 90 percent of Australian parents who already thought spanking their kids was ok. For Mr Abbott to say what he did was ill-considered and plain wrong. I believe that Australia’s children deserve better than that.
So are you just a flat out liar? Just a elitist from Silicon Valley that worships Spock?

Let's here from those up North.

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2005 study of mothers of preschoolers in Manitoba and Ontario, 70 per cent reported having used physical punishment and one-third did so at least once a week. Yet in a poll done in 2007 for The Globe and Mail by the Strategic Counsel, 78 per cent of Canadian parents of children under 18 believed that parents do not discipline their children enough these days – and 42 per cent of Canadians believed spanking is beneficial to a child’s development..
Why make up crap that the US is the only developed country in the world that spanks their children?
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:59 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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On spanking, my opinion is adapted from this, more eloquently than I could ever myself word it:

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A lot of people like to think they are “non-violent.” Generally, people claim to “abhor” the use of violence, and violence is viewed negatively by most folks. Many fail to differentiate between just and unjust violence. Some especially vain, self-righteous types like to think they have risen above the nasty, violent cultures of their ancestors. They say that “violence isn’t the answer.” They say that “violence doesn’t solve anything.”

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Violence is Golden - Jack Donovan

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Old 01-01-2015, 12:40 AM
 
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What would I do? Well, if I were in that store, it wouldn't have taken me 3 and a half minutes to grab him and pitch him out the front door - more like 3 and a half seconds. The kid is responsible and accountable for his actions, but I blame the "adults" who were present for not only allowing him to continue but actually encouraging him. That's what I found incredible about this video.
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Old 01-01-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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It's quite easy to spawn offspring. Dogs do it every day.

It's quite another to properly raise a child to be a civilized productive member of society.
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:06 AM
 
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When I read "melt down", I thought something very different. What I see is a very troubled child who has never been taught any differently. Very disturbing. More disturbing is that there is an adult filming this who finds it amusing.
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:46 AM
 
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What would I do? Well, if I were in that store, it wouldn't have taken me 3 and a half minutes to grab him and pitch him out the front door - more like 3 and a half seconds. The kid is responsible and accountable for his actions, but I blame the "adults" who were present for not only allowing him to continue but actually encouraging him. That's what I found incredible about this video.

I agree Albert - unfortunately in today's society - not only would you probably be arrested for assaulting him - the parent's would sue - and they'd probably win.
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:54 AM
 
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For all the people who are asking where this kid's parents are, he's 10 years old, not 4.

A normal 10 year old doesn't need adult supervision USUALLY. Ten year olds go to the mall all the time without parents, and in most cases act quite appropriately. Go into a video archade and you'll find kids younger than that who aren't with their parents. (not that I agree with it)

This child should have been stopped immediately by the staff and the police should have been called immediately.

He either has mental or anger issues, and I hope he'll get the help he needs. 100 hours of community work in a homeless shelter might help cure him.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:36 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure he's acting out because somebody else in his life thought the answer to everything was to beat the kid.
Probably not. I say this because most of the problem children such as these that I've seen in counseling have very permissive and/or underinvolved parents. And some parents to kids like there are actually great parents.

Sorry to say, but some people are just born psychopaths.

He should have been made to apologize, put the store back together, and be ordered to probation and counseling. The parents also should be held accountable but if they were good parents, they should welcome any opportunities for this kid to get help.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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When I read "melt down", I thought something very different. What I see is a very troubled child who has never been taught any differently. Very disturbing. More disturbing is that there is an adult filming this who finds it amusing.
That is the LEAST disturbing. It is (thankful) an anomaly and what do we do when we see such things in action and feel we have little control over the situation? We observe. The filmer was obviously taken aback. Laughing is a normal reaction. I probably would have done the same while assuming a parent was going to enter the scene soon.
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