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Old 01-04-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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JWG223, yours is a very inspiring story! Thanks for sharing.
Any time. I hope it can help someone who is where I was that day staring into my carpet being sad for myself. I was a whining brat and have become self sufficient and successful enough that I'm content with what I have and my income. Why? Because I took responsibility for my own future and made it happen instead of continuing to complain. Complaining is just a round about way of asking someone else to fix something for you.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Having anything remotely close to factual proving non-belief in God leads one to believe money makes things better or just blowing meaningless smoke?
Would you like some cheese for the whine?

Atheism and Christianity are opposite each other that was all that was expressed. Atheist views of this world was used as a foil to the Christian story of Job, and implied any belief held by any atheist that would imply money makes loss like this okay. Since atheism doesn't have a story of Job and all I had to be generic. If you got something else out of it, well, you're misinterpreting it.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:12 PM
 
Location: DFW/Texas
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JWG223, I also found your story to be inspiring and after I read it I thought that they world could use several million more guys like you around. Cool car, by the way

I have 2 young daughters. The thought of one of them having to go through what this little girl is going through paralyzes me with fear. If something happens to me and/or my husband, who is going to be there for them like we are? Who knows what their favorite colors are, or how they like to have their milk at bedtime or how they have certain smells to them? Who knows every intimate, wonderful detail of our children besides my husband and I? No one. No one does. Our extended families know and love and adore our children and if anything were to happen to us (knock on wood) our girls would be more than well-cared for. But they wouldn't have us. And we wouldn't be able to be with them. I can't even write that damn sentence without tears streaming down my face and my heart aching. The thought of being without them or them without us is unbearable to me.

You know, OP, plenty of people on here have commented that you are a sociopath with no heart and a coldness that basically defies description. Me, though? I'm not going to tell you what you don't already know about yourself. My gut tells me that you've been told the same type of things for many years and hearing it here on CD isn't going to phase you. My gut also tells me that you LIKE to hear how awful you are and you will use your "sympathy" toward the less fortunate as an excuse to spew your bile on others. Good luck with that, by the way, let me know how it works out for you.

Me? I grew up privileged and I'll be damned if I'm going to apologize for it or feel guilty about it. My father worked his a$$ to get several degrees of higher education and then worked his a$$ off supporting our family and, in turn, we had a good, solid life. I have a college degree, a hard-working husband, 2 gorgeous children, cars that are paid for and a lot more and you know how we got it all? WE WORKED FOR IT. OP, you can hate me all you want because I had and have a "better" life than you but oh well, doesn't hurt my feelings at all.

Normal people like me can only hope and pray that that little girl, Sailor, is able to get through this horrific ordeal and be at peace while she lives her life. She was spared for a reason. Coincidentally I just saw a show on CBS or NBC last night about a young woman whom was the lone survivor after her entire family was shot in their home in the middle of the TX panhandle. She was 10 at the time and was the most articulate and strong girl you'd ever see after seeing her mom, stepfather and brother all shot to death and she herself being shot at. Like I said, people like these 2 girls are spared for a reason.
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Old 01-05-2015, 02:27 AM
 
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That poor girl! I cried when I read that story, she's incredibly brave finding help and bless the kind old man who took care of her. I hope her relatives take good care of her, they can't replace the loss of her parents, sister and cousin but she deserves to be taken care of.

If you want to help her, here's the donation site, I gave $2: https://www.sailorgutzlerfund.com/

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Old 01-05-2015, 02:57 AM
 
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To the OP, I'm very much a socialist guy but money doesn't replace family and they seemed like good people! I wouldn't take any amount of money or power if it meant I lost either of my parents even as an adult.

Sailor's family owned a small business in a tiny Midwestern town, they were probably comfortably middle class but not multimillionaires or anything. Even if they were, being rich doesn't make you a bad person, especially if you're only a little 7 year old girl! People like you are why the Soviet Union failed lol. Socialism is a good thing IMO but jealousy is a very ugly thing and I think it's telling of your character that you don't feel any pity for this kid.
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Old 01-05-2015, 04:44 AM
 
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It looks like everybody feels sympathetic to the wealthy. Think about how many Mexican children (7 years old) die just trying to get across the border. Do we ever report on them when every case happens? When was the last time you ever heard of a wealthy person on death row? Apparently, the jury only sentences the poor to death. CEO of a company in Texas murders his wife in the most brutal way with beatings and stabbings, 25 years in prison. A trailer park man kills his girlfriend with a pill, death. This country has never felt any sympathy for the poor, and I'm tired of it. I'm not going to sit down and feel one shred of sympathy for the extremely wealthy. I will only feel sympathy for the less fortunate because they deserve it.
You are what Obama and the liberals have created.

A class warfare minion. Mindless
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Old 01-05-2015, 05:42 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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It looks like everybody feels sympathetic to the wealthy.
The wealthy are people too.
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Think about how many Mexican children (7 years old) die just trying to get across the border. Do we ever report on them when every case happens?
Does anyone have a right to be "just trying to get across the border"?

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When was the last time you ever heard of a wealthy person on death row? Apparently, the jury only sentences the poor to death. CEO of a company in Texas murders his wife in the most brutal way with beatings and stabbings, 25 years in prison. A trailer park man kills his girlfriend with a pill, death.
No question there are problems with providing appropriate legal services to the poor. I can't defend their lack of advocates.
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This country has never felt any sympathy for the poor, and I'm tired of it. I'm not going to sit down and feel one shred of sympathy for the extremely wealthy. I will only feel sympathy for the less fortunate because they deserve it.
Equality is the key. Equality of opportunity, not of resultl
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Old 01-05-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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You are what Obama and the liberals have created.

A class warfare minion. Mindless
Can we please keep politics out of this? It's not the place and it's a misplaced argument, since every single person on this thread slammed OP and many of us are liberals.

Shocking fact: many liberals are actually wealthy, too.

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Old 01-05-2015, 06:03 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Can we please keep politics out of this? It's not the place and it's a misplaced argument, since every single person on this thread slammed OP and many of us are liberals.
I'm an extreme leftist too and I was offended.
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No, it's not. People also just want a nice feel-good story.
Are you running to out-mean (to coin a verb) Ebenezer Scrooge?
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Old 01-05-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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‘Tough little girl,’ 7, survives plane crash that killed her family, braves harsh terrain


Tragedy strikes as a 7-yr-old loses family members in a devastating aircraft failure. At this point, many of us want to feel badly, and I truly want to, but it's difficult when understanding the circumstances behind this case. We have a 7 year old who came back on a private plan that is worth $800,000+ from Florida. How many other kids her age even get to ride a passenger plane to Florida and take these lavish vacations over their New Year's break? Probably very, very few. It's possible her parents have large life insurance policies, and expensive estate that she will collect. I was talking to my friend about this and she said, "Miss Has-It-All had 1 adversity for once in her privileged life." I didn't think to be so volatile about the situation, but I understand where she came from, and why she would feel that way. It's hard to have sympathy for anyone living a high-class lifestyle. The way I think of it is, if you want to live the high-class lifestyle, then you accept the risks involved in living that kind of lifestyle. I come from an upper-middle class situation myself, and I honestly want to feel sympathy for this girl, but again, it's difficult when there are so many other factors of wealth involved.



Now, I would easily feel badly for a little middle class girl who lost both of her parents in an accident after getting in a wreck after getting on their way home from shopping in their 2007 Suburban, where she was relying on her parents' modest income that she's no longer going to be supported from. She probably won't get much from policies, and she has to grow up without her parents. She probably doesn't go on a lot of vacations. I think that's the type of little girl I would feel a lot of sympathy for.


Alright, I'm ready to get slammed, but I thought I would bring this up because it's a current event that I'm interested in.

It seems like then, if we hear a story about poor families struggling to the point where a murder happened over a financial situation, we think they deserve to go to hell for it, but we don't understand what kind of situation they were in, and how it was money that led to it, and without it, it likely would have never occurred because the stress would have been non-existent. Then, we feel sympathy for a situation like this.

I don't understand this world.
The brave little girl is 7 years old. She is a victim of circumstances, not some thief in the night. Do you even remember when you were 7years old? So happy that little Sailor survived; she was trying to save her family. Her loss will never be replaced. She has memories; but not her mom and dad and sister and cousin to hug and love throughout her entire life.

I know someone like you. It's almost like you are unhappy and the rest of the world should cry with you.
Well, I guess it takes all kinds; but truly are you serious or just yanking our chains?
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