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Old 01-07-2015, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Right. Congrats for being a white guy. 9 times of 10, you will be on the right side of 'officer discretion' presuming you are 'respectful'.

The comically perverted system of "MAKE EVERYTHING ILLEGAL BUT OFFICER DISCRETION WILL SORT OUT THE GOOD FROM THE BAD" basically means that old white guys never get tickets for anything, while all black people not only get tickets but impounded cars, mugshots in the newspaper, etc, etc, etc.... over trivialities.

It comes as no shock to see some communities finally crossing the tipping point as far as the ridiculous police abuse that routinely occurs in this country considering that 'officer discretion' often hinges on the opinions of someone who not a month before graduating their 4 month 'police academy' was making Whoppers at Burger King.

Having black friends and hearing the stories- then, one time, seeing it for myself- is what changed my opinion on this from naive white guy who always got 'warnings' to a guy who realized that this entire apparatus of society known as 'law enforcement' is like a dog that no longer serves its master, only its own impulses, and its categorized entire large groups of people as enemies.

For whatever problems black culture has (and there are definitely some), for whatever disorder and annoyance those same dysfunctions cause, they don't scare me nearly as bad as the cultural corruption of many of our nations polce forces.
I'm not a white guy, lol... and I certainly don't think everything should be illegal, in fact I'd vote to legalize ALL drugs if given the chance. So please stop and re-read my post, as you completely missed the overall point.

I was merely saying that discretion has always, and should to some degree, be used by LE. But then I also said it's not always exercised equally - or randomly (without regard to demographics) - which is the underlying problem here. So basically you're preaching to the choir, as I fully understand and acknowledge these inequities.
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Wrong. What there should have been was a hail of machine gun fire into the wall of the 70 skells. All kill shots.
That would be a great way to start something really really bad. Lots of citizens own guns in FL, and most of them don't agree with marijuana being illegal or police gunning down 70 of their fellow citizens for non violently sticking up for a citizen smoking it.

There are a lot more armed citizens then there are police. If they really wanted to they could take out every single police officer before the national guard could even get here.

People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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That would be a great way to start something really really bad. Lots of citizens own guns in FL, and most of them don't agree with marijuana being illegal or police gunning down 70 of their fellow citizens for non violently sticking up for a citizen smoking it.

There are a lot more armed citizens then there are police. If they really wanted to they could take out every single police officer before the national guard could even get here.

People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.
So, you didn't read the article.. good to know.

FYI - I did read the article. How are rocks, bricks, injuries, and broken windshields non-violent?
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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All this outrage at police officers, and yet nobody is upset at the lawmakers who made pot illegal in the first place, and who continuously outlaw, restrict, and regulate anything and everything.

The only thing worse than a bad law is a bad law selectively enforced.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I really wish they didn't get violent..otherwise I would have totally supported them in forming a human shield to prevent someone from getting arrested for smoking some ****in' weed. He was just walking down the road smoking a joint. WHO. CARES. In Florida no less, where the majority of the citizens in November wanted to legalize the damn thing. Sucks they had to get violent.

This about sums up my thought, and getting violent is where they lose my support. However; it is time to end the damn war on weed once and for all, and legalize it already!
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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The only thing worse than a bad law is a bad law selectively enforced.
Wrong.

A bad law rigorously enforced is worse.
A politician responsible for a series of bad laws is even worse than that.
A tyrannical government hell-bent on controlling citizens' everyday lives is the worst of the whole lot.
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: California
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this is not about police misconduct.
its a rebellion against current law and order. civilians and police being murdered to intimidate the populous.
civil rights progress is being set back 60 years.
these are not peaceful protests.
boko haram has come to america.
So, think before you/we vote next time.

The police are there to protect peaceful citizens from thugs who think they should be treated like some kind of royalty. Our tax dollars should be spent on worth while projects like education and health care, not wasted because spoiled thugs don't like being responsible for their own actions. Respect is earned.
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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I don't buy that. I think people are using the VERY few instances where police have gone overboard, and used that as an excuse to become animals. And the media is perpetuating the entire wave...
Don't be ridiculous. You're living in right wing denial land. You can watch HOURS of police brutality and malfeasance online. Imagine what doesn't get video recorded.

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

Thomas Jefferson
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Don't be ridiculous. You're living in right wing denial land. You can watch HOURS of police brutality and malfeasance online. Imagine what doesn't get video recorded.

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

Thomas Jefferson
And, similarly, you can watch HOURS of "citizens" acting like animals. And, for the record, I am certainly not "right wing".
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: USA
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I think the argument of whether or not we have Police corruption issues in this country has already been decided. The only one's who don't believe there's a problem tend to represent a specific demographic and are on the fringe on this issue.
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