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Old 01-07-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Don't be ridiculous. You're living in right wing denial land. You can watch HOURS of police brutality and malfeasance online. Imagine what doesn't get video recorded.
True. Watched this today: Detained for 19 Days: Immigration Checkpoint Refusal Gone Wrong - Reason.com
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Old 01-07-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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IF 70 people were throwing bricks, blocking or pushing the police then there should have been 70 arrests. Why not?
If 70 people were intent on inflicting physical harm to 4 police officers, then there should have been 4 dead police. Why not? Because, like most other encounters, the police have highly exaggerated (lied) about what happened.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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All this outrage at police officers, and yet nobody is upset at the lawmakers who made pot illegal in the first place, and who continuously outlaw, restrict, and regulate anything and everything.

Should spice (and MJ, for that matter) really be illegal? If so, what gives government the right to outlaw or regulate it?
Should you be allowed to possess and consume MJ without jumping through the hoops of getting a medical card?

Don't be mad at the cops, be mad at the politicians who criminalized pot and who made police officers enforce the laws against marijuana.
Then why do police unions so rigorously oppose marijuana legalization? Why does polling of individual officers show much the same?
That pathetic blame-shift doesn't hold any water.

Don't get me wrong. Over-criminalization at the legislative level is a huge problem, but cops themselves cannot deny the role they themselves play in that personally and professionally.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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If 70 people were intent on inflicting physical harm to 4 police officers, then there should have been 4 dead police. Why not? Because, like most other encounters, the police have highly exaggerated (lied) about what happened.
Wow, and then hired 70 actors so it would appear legitimate for the recorded footage? That's quite a bit of work for a seemingly low ROI...

Back to Fantasyland for you...
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: California
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Wow, and then hired 70 actors so it would appear legitimate for the recorded footage? That's quite a bit of work for a seemingly low ROI...

Back to Fantasyland for you...
anything goes for the Sharpton fantasy.....

Hopefully, the National Guard will get down there and clean up the mess so we can get back to intelligent life.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:49 PM
 
Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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So that automatically makes it right? Unjust laws have to be changed somehow...and blindly obeying is not the answer. That being said...neither is throwing bricks at cops. Or whatever the thugs were doing. Human chain would have been great. But..of course they had to escalate to violence. Of course.
Agreed on all counts. I 100% support the attempt to shield the man from arrest, and 100% oppose the use of violence against the cops. That just drags the protesters down to the cops' level.

And yeah, "just obey the law" excuses all manner of immoral laws. What if Harriet Tubman, Gandhi, or MLK had "just obeyed the law"? If our Founding Fathers had "just obeyed the law," we'd still be British subjects.
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Kaliforneea
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Well, here in California MJ is decriminalized. There are almost as many pot dispenseries as Savon/Rite-Aid/CVS stores. It's just 'not a crime' - it's something you should get a 'ticket for', like Jaywalking.

I don't want true criminals like rapists or murderers or child molestors being released early because some pot smoker or dealer is taking up their prison cell.

So I consider the MJ -decrim states are analogous to the Northern Free States where slavery was outlawed and the rest of the country is like the slave-owning Southern States just before the Civil War. We're just waiting for the less-enlightened areas of the country to catchup. Cops: go stop real crime, don't worry about Cheech n Chong.

disclaimer: I don't use it myself, and never will.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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while i think it is tragic for the upstanding citizens who need protection, the police have lost their moral capital and the authority that goes with it in many parts of this country due in large part to their own actions. Especially where petty crimes like pot smoking are concerned.

this.

Don't they have anything better to do?
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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So that automatically makes it right? Unjust laws have to be changed somehow...and blindly obeying is not the answer. That being said...neither is throwing bricks at cops. Or whatever the thugs were doing. Human chain would have been great. But..of course they had to escalate to violence. Of course.
Dey be's... what dey iz...

And, if one expects civilized behavior from such a group, I would strongly advise against holding one's breath...
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: the Permian Basin
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Then why do police unions so rigorously oppose marijuana legalization? Why does polling of individual officers show much the same?
That pathetic blame-shift doesn't hold any water.

Don't get me wrong. Over-criminalization at the legislative level is a huge problem, but cops themselves cannot deny the role they themselves play in that personally and professionally.
Cops can only enforce laws that have already been enacted by politicians.

Please post a link to the polls you mentioned, because the vast majority of the officers I know, including all those with whom I went through the academy, support decriminalization.
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