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Old 01-08-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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Dude, marijuana hasn't been taboo since the early reefer madness days. I'm 25 and from high school on, marijuana was present and not even close to taboo. You are living under a rock if you think kids are smoking pot because they were pressured into it by society or some crap like that. They are smoking it because it's awesome, end of story. You can't possibly censor society enough that high school age kids won't know about marijuana.

Legalization is going to make it harder for underage kids to get any. Before, they could hit up their dealer, who didn't care about their age. Now they have to buy it in a store because the dealers went out of business. I guarantee you that the kids who want it will still get it one way or another, it'll just be a bit harder.

So no, legal pot isn't causing any problems. At the very least, it's not causing problems that even approach the problems that prohibition has caused. Prohibition does not work, and people like you are what's keeping it going far longer then it should be. Get with the program, Todd. You're smarter then this.
Lol, "They are smoking it because it's awesome".

 
Old 01-08-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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It never ceases to amaze me how people who use drugs, and yes, pot is a drug will defend themselves to the hilt on their drug using.
They will put children, family members, finances, employment all at risk.

And make so many out there off the wall reasons and excuses that it is just Okey dokey to use and it's not a problem. And hey, it is even better for everyone!
And they are so very good at attempting to turn it around twist it around on to you and off of them.
Just sickening
Yes, people like... you. In post after post, you extol the virtues of your favorite drugs, beer and wine.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37692839-post31.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37058481-post1.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37553807-post1.html

Guess what? Alcohol kills far, far more people each year in places where both alcohol and marijuana are legal.
Alcohol responsible for 1 in 7 deaths among CO adults

Guess what? Marijuana-related deaths in Colorado in 2014 (when it was legal) were down over 2013 (when it was illegal).
Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows - The Washington Post

You are completely detached from reality. You pretend that any drug that is arbitrarily legal isn't really a drug. You ignore actual data and insist that X, Y and Z are or will be true, when the real-world evidence clearly shows that they are not.

Look, I have no dog in this hunt. I don't smoke marijuana and have absolutely no interest in inhaling the byproducts, both gaseous and particulate, of burning organic matter, though I do enjoy beer, and a very occasional martini. The costs of legally prohibiting marijuana exceeds that of the costs of having it legal. That is the reason I support its legalization.

I understand the data. The facts. Or, as I like to call it, reality.

You, clearly, do not.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I'm a pretty conservative feller, but I think pot being illegal is stupid and a huge waste of law enforcement resources and time. A little over a dozen problems does not make a crisis. There will be some growing pains with the legalization of marijuana, but I highly doubt it will be the worst thing to ever happen.

Give it time for the kinks to be worked out and just relax. The quote above is spot on.


And I really fail to see how pornography and illegal immigration tie into this topic or moral values. OK, well, porn I understand, but it isn't all that bad. FFS, it's procreation on video. We all came from a V (c-section aside) and the first thing we saw was a boob stuck in our mouth. Big friggin' deal.
All good points! Ending prohibition of cannabis will not cause the sky to fall, nor will it cause the decay of society. If anything the empty suits in DC and their corporate cronies are behind the decay!

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A few more side effects include a spike in sales at pizza delivery joints, increased tax revenues, and a massive increase in the deep philosophical conversations about the merits of Mario over Sonic and how much of a genius the lead guitar player of Government Mule is.

You also can't discount the increased sales of Phish albums, Grateful Dead t-shirts, Top rolling papers, new work for unemployed glass blowers, and Moen, Price Pfister, and other faucet makers probably see an increase in orders for screens in faucets (most people won't get that).

Oh believe me, I got it!
 
Old 01-08-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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Yes, people like... you. In post after post, you extol the virtues of your favorite drugs, beer and wine.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37692839-post31.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37058481-post1.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/37553807-post1.html
Hahaha, burrrrrrrrrn.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
This is really funny how many people have jumped in to dissect and jump all over what I wrote.
I'm glad I am having such an impact and making people think. Isn't that what city data is all about to share ideas and talk about them.
My thoughts and words have been twisted up by you responders. NOW I know how a Politician feels.


Bottom line For Good or Bad Kids mimic what they see adults doing.
Not as often as they mimic what other kids do. It has been forever thus.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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One of the side effects of legal pot is the sharp drop in heroin overdoses in the states that legalized it, marijuana should be legal nationwide, it is a lot less harmful than alcohol.
Also sharp drops in prescription drug overdoses, particularly painkillers.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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Hahaha, burrrrrrrrrn.

And here we have the CD Forum Award winner for the most mature poster....................
 
Old 01-08-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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Yes, people like... you. In post after post, you extol the virtues of your favorite drugs, beer and wine.

Touche' !!!! End of story. This person has no merit/platform to address the topic from WHATSOEVER. Fookin DRUNKS. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. They ingest one of the MOST ADDICTIVE substances to man...daily...and then talk about impairment in others and other idiotic diatribe?

'merica!! Where 1 in 10 is a full blown alkie...but at least they AREN'T ON DRUGS.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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And here we have the CD Forum Award winner for the most mature poster....................
Feeling defensive? I see you didn't bother to address the hypocrisy that was revealed in that poster's post.
 
Old 01-08-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Honestly, when I was a teen, it was easier to get illegal marijuana than it was to find someone who was 21 to go buy you alcohol. I knew 5 people in my town with a 16k population that sold pot - there were probably tons more that I didn't even know. And I live in Ohio, so no where near the states who have legalized it for recreational use. I've also seen drug dealers (not the friendly fun-raising kind who just sell some pot to their college buddies) push harder drugs like heroin on people buying pot because if he can get you doing that harder stuff, you'll spend more money.

Why can't people just live and let live?? If it's not affecting you (not liking it doesn't count) then leave 'em be! I don't care what my neighbor does in his own home. That's his own business. And it's not your responsibility to parent other people's children. I know plenty of people with kids who smoke. In fact, one of them is a very well-respected preacher who does tons of charity in the community! His son is 9 and is one of the most well-behaved, well-mannered children I've ever met.
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