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Old 01-10-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Haven't we been trying over the past few years to get kids to go to adults with rumors...
I guess so...

It's a sad commentary that "in this day and age" that's what we're doing. I guess it should make me glad A) I grew up before we were encouraging kids to aggressively narc on fellow kids, and B) I don't have kids of my own.

During my childhood and adolescence, I tried on different hats (so to speak). I went on little pre-adult thought experiments and said things to try them out and see how they felt to me and to others. It was part of learning through trial and error. Overall I was a good kid and I'm a good adult. But a few things I said or a few conversations I had back then could doubtless have been construed, if everyone were out to potentially rat out everyone else and it made its way to the principal or police, as terroristic threats per today's paradigm.

This day and age makes me sad. What will the day and age be like twenty years from now?
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Old 01-10-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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I guess so...

It's a sad commentary that "in this day and age" that's what we're doing. I guess it should make me glad A) I grew up before we were encouraging kids to aggressively narc on fellow kids, and B) I don't have kids of my own.

During my childhood and adolescence, I tried on different hats (so to speak). I went on little pre-adult thought experiments and said things to try them out and see how they felt to me and to others. It was part of learning through trial and error. Overall I was a good kid and I'm a good adult. But a few things I said or a few conversations I had back then could doubtless have been construed, if everyone were out to potentially rat out everyone else and it made its way to the principal or police, as terroristic threats per today's paradigm.

This day and age makes me sad. What will the day and age be like twenty years from now?
It makes me sad, too. As much as getting older is a pain, I am glad I grew up when I did rather than now.
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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I say let the teacher meet with the kids and the principal - let them hash out whether this is a big deal or just kids talking junk. If these are problem kids that have been in trouble for things like assault/bomb threats, etc - that may have some influence on their punishment. This is really something that should have been dealt with in an hour after school instead of getting everyone's 2 cent from around the country.
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Old 01-10-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This got out to the public. There are many, many more "incidents" on record that the public will never know about.
And if you work in the schools then you know what I mean.

Stuff that should be reported is quietly brushed under the table.
Other teachers whisper in the hall but it ends there because they need their jobs.
Kids that should be in jail for what they did freely walk the halls.
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Old 01-10-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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This got out to the public. There are many, many more "incidents" on record that the public will never know about.
And if you work in the schools then you know what I mean.

Stuff that should be reported is quietly brushed under the table.
Other teachers whisper in the hall but it ends there because they need their jobs.
Kids that should be in jail for what they did freely walk the halls.
Yeah, a friend of mine was accused of molestation by two 7th graders who were upset with him. Luckily for him, girl #2 fessed up before he was arrested.
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Old 01-10-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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My wife, the teacher, was pushed down a flight of stairs by a 5th grader with "issues." I'm told that kid grew up to be a model prisoner.
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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I think these little darlings should at least be taken out of regular classes. In my district we have a special school for problem kids.
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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We used to have special schools for students who misbehaved. The trouble is that certain groups claimed it was unfair so the city did away with those schools. Now the problem pupils have free run of the schools and nothing is done to stop them.

When my husband was in high school, (many decades ago) one of the female students had a crush on a male teacher. He refused to start up with her and instead, acted very professionally. She was not happy. One day, my husband was going up the stairs right in back of this teacher. The female student was coming down the stairs on the other side of the double staircase. When she saw the teacher she ripped her shirt sleeve, came running down the stairs, bumped into the teacher and began screaming that he attacked her. My husband saw the entire thing unfold.

The teacher was dragged into the principal's office and was close to being fired when my husband walked in and told the principal what he saw. That teacher was one lucky man. His job was saved. Nowadays that teacher would have been fired and that would have been the end of that. The students rule the roost because the chicken administrations in all the schools are afraid. Education is sinking fast.
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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This is only happening because they can no longer eat their pop tarts into the shape of a gun. Oh wait a minute, they can't eat pop tarts in school anymore. Nevermind.
This is happening today because the adults in charge think those pop tart guns are scary and dangerous.

God help us!
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Old 01-10-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I think the kids that told absolutely did the right thing. Haven't we been trying over the past few years to get kids to go to adults with rumors, whether it be a student who said he's going to kill himself, or students saying they're going to shoot up a school? In many of the incidents that have happened over the past few years, the kids knew about rumors and talked about them amongst themselves but never told adults.

No one knows if these girls were going to do it, but there is no reason to assume it was just "giggling". They are the same age as the two girls who tried to murder their friend stabbing her dozens of times, because of that "SlenderMan" video...this is not IMO much ado about nothing, rumors like this need to be investigated and I am surprised at the adults here who maintain their grasp on the "kids will be kids, let it go" attitude in this day and age.
I'm def for the "when in doubt, tell someone" mantra they teach at my son's school. I just hope that once the adults were made aware of the situation, they used common sense when dealing with the girls and not instituted some blanket form of punishment.
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