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Old 01-09-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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FREE college....FREE healthcare. Sweet.

Now I just need to have a baby and get FREE food and FREE childcare.

I love America!
Don't forget- soon Pfree-K is coming, too! Step right up for your freebies, America...whether you are legal or not!
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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Free=Government=Taxpayers. I am so sick and tired of paying for others to get "free" this and that. Why should this surprise us? We obviously learned nothing from the housing bubble because he was out touting his "new plan" for low-wage home buyers to save money.
Degrees are already becoming worthless. If these people can't afford the first two years, what makes anyone think they will continue on with years three and four? All we need is more people with associate's degrees asking if we want a re-fill on our tea. There are no good paying jobs out there anyone- let alone someone with only two years of college.
It seems that a 2 year degree is completely useless unless it's in something that directly leads to a job (nursing for example).
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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Obama's further expansion of the welfare state proposals are DOA as of this week. Congress isn't going to fund them and the vast majority of states will ignore him.
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Free=Government=Taxpayers. I am so sick and tired of paying for others to get "free" this and that. Why should this surprise us? We obviously learned nothing from the housing bubble because he was out touting his "new plan" for low-wage home buyers to save money.
Degrees are already becoming worthless. If these people can't afford the first two years, what makes anyone think they will continue on with years three and four? All we need is more people with associate's degrees asking if we want a re-fill on our tea. There are no good paying jobs out there anyone- let alone someone with only two years of college.
Part of the rationale is that it's about job re-training. That's a good thing, it would boost the economy overall to get unemployed adults back into the job market. There are definitely jobs out there, it's just that they require a higher skill set than most Americans have. Why are we importing workers from India and Eastern Europe, instead of employing our own? Americans have to catch up and get their act together.
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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Part of the rationale is that it's about job re-training. That's a good thing, it would boost the economy overall to get unemployed adults back into the job market. There are definitely jobs out there, it's just that they require a higher skill set than most Americans have. Why are we importing workers from India and Eastern Europe, instead of employing our own? Americans have to catch up and get their act together.
I wonder if free CC will actually make hungry and very intelligent Indians go away. Will the gains be offset by the flood of new grads and lazy that just go because it's free? I do wonder if the cost of community college actually keeps intelligent people from obtaining what they want. It's what...$3k/year for a 2 year degree? If one has a goal, they can wait tables and pay that easily.

Essentially, we are just going from K-12 to K-14. What parent isn't going to encourage their kids to take advantage of 2 free years of college? Why not just make it K-16?
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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If it were free many of the students would not put much effort into it, because they don't have a financial stake. The quality of the students and the classes would go down hill.
You make this broad judgment based on, what?

God knows its about time we invest in the betterment of our children and economic future, instead of death and destruction in the Middle East and SW Asia.
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I wonder if free CC will actually make hungry and very intelligent Indians go away. Will the gains be offset by the flood of new grads and lazy that just go because it's free? I do wonder if the cost of community college actually keeps intelligent people from obtaining what they want. It's what...$3k/year for a 2 year degree? If one has a goal, they can wait tables and pay that easily.

Essentially, we are just going from K-12 to K-14. What parent isn't going to encourage their kids to take advantage of 2 free years of college? Why not just make it K-16?
That's exactly what students are doing; waiting tables to pay tuition. Where did you think the current tuition money was coming from? But there's also living expenses to pay for.
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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It seems that a 2 year degree is completely useless unless it's in something that directly leads to a job (nursing for example).
Did you know that most classes you take at a 2 year college can transfer credits to a 4 year college? Do you know that adds up to not only savings but also time in getting one's degree?
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Did you know that most classes you take at a 2 year college can transfer credits to a 4 year college? Do you know that adds up to not only savings but also time in getting one's degree?
Unfortunately, the only answer for a little less than half of the population is, "More military, less education and deregulation."
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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That's exactly what students are doing; waiting tables to pay tuition. Where did you think the current tuition money was coming from? But there's also living expenses to pay for.
So for those that actually have employable skills - how does this help? I find it hard to believe that someone with the brain power to obtain a well paying job would otherwise have their goals stifled by $3k in tuition.
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