U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
20,873 posts, read 22,451,999 times
Reputation: 32624

Advertisements

If this girl has read all about the treatments and looked up the stats about recurrence and survival rates and made an informed decision, I think she has every right to turn down the treatment being forced upon her.

Teen fighting chemo says she knows she'll die without it - CBS News

Last edited by Minervah; 01-09-2015 at 08:17 PM.. Reason: Bad link
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
5,644 posts, read 4,902,469 times
Reputation: 4047
Absolutely. She owns her body and her mind. No one else.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:33 PM
 
14,993 posts, read 8,550,839 times
Reputation: 24967
I've read comments about this on other sites, and some people say that her type of non Hodgkin's disease is the most receptive to chemo and better chance of beating the disease than with other forms of cancer.

That said reading about chemo, sounds like a very horrible thing to endure with the side effects. I can't stand being nauseous and could only imagine how bad it must be.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
10,024 posts, read 10,140,888 times
Reputation: 8868
We have had two similar cases here in Ontario in the last year. The cases were even a little more complicated as the kids in question were natives with full native status. They were also considerably younger.
Ontario girl can rely on traditional medicine to treat cancer ... was the decision of the courts.


The courts ruled in favour of the kids and their families that they could pursue any type of treatment they desired.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Denver area
172 posts, read 206,197 times
Reputation: 299
This makes me so angry! They've got her locked up in a hospital room & they're forcing her to undergo these treatments, like some medieval torture chamber. I've seen first hand what chemo can do to people. Thank heaven I'm over 18 because if I ever get cancer there's no way I'm allowing anyone to pump me full of that poison.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:41 PM
 
17,627 posts, read 12,218,187 times
Reputation: 12864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
I've read comments about this on other sites, and some people say that her type of non Hodgkin's disease is the most receptive to chemo and better chance of beating the disease than with other forms of cancer.

That said reading about chemo, sounds like a very horrible thing to endure with the side effects. I can't stand being nauseous and could only imagine how bad it must be.


With treatment she has an 80% chance of survival iirc
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte
3,926 posts, read 4,398,723 times
Reputation: 3395
CT, etc has a history of forcing treatment. Mass effectively imprisoned a young lady because it disagreed with Te parents treatment plan.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
20,873 posts, read 22,451,999 times
Reputation: 32624
I have read that the wonderful Cancer "cures" we see in children affect them sometimes bringing new ills five to ten years later as they mature. It is not really known if it is the body's reaction to the chemo or the Cancers themselves. It's something I read about in an alternative medical magazine but if I can find a link to a website I'll post it.

I do remember when I paid health insurance claims, that sometimes the kids who went through chemo and got better came back with new Cancers and illness in their late teens or twenties. In other words, they went out of remission more often than adults. This girl might be past that stage but who knows?

I don't think it's just the side effects of chemo that she wants to avoid, she just has rejected it as a treatment. Isn't that her right? How can they lock her up like she was a criminal and literally force these drugs through her body? That's the part that really is the most frightening in all of this. It isn't as if she were a little kid with neglectful parents. She is nearly of legal age to make her own decisions and apparently understands the consequences of her decision. If the State is allowed to get away with this, what else can they do?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Wandering in the Dothraki sea
1,342 posts, read 1,212,238 times
Reputation: 3227
I saw what my fiancé went through with chemo.....nobody should be forced to do that, statistics are irrelevant.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-09-2015, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
20,873 posts, read 22,451,999 times
Reputation: 32624
I found this link to substantiate the stats of childhood Cancer survival rates and future complications. Given that this girl is not a child she is still young enough to possible suffer from some of these problems. In any case, it does go to show that while there is no denying that chemo and other treatments work, there can be a heavy price to pay for using them. And that could end in death just as not using them. It just gives the patient more time but with what kind of quality of life?

Children's Cancer Statistics: CureSearch
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top