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Old 01-18-2015, 06:28 PM
 
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The white conservative hero George Zimmerman appears to be at it again.
Dumbing down the thread, as usual

 
Old 01-18-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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You are making a false equivalence fallacy by using a generality to avoid the specifics.

Plenty of teenagers do drugs and make mistakes, and fortunately most have enough sense, due to decent parenting, to know the boundaries between bad behavior and dangerous activity. Most have the morals to avoid attacking others in the community. Martin, apparently lacked this common sense and morals.

TM made the mistake of physically attacking someone when he had full choice to just leave. Now he's dead because of it. Actions have consequences and TM, or rather his so called loved ones, found out what acting like a Thug will get you. I say loved ones because the dead only know they are dead.
I understand you believe that Trayvon Martin was the aggressor. That is your privilege. There is no evidence his parents were not decent parents. For those who believe your premise is wrong, your deductions (poor parents, lacking morals) is also not correct. People do make mistakes, just like the photo wasn't really Trayvon Martin and thus is not evidence of a thug.
 
Old 01-18-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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Would you mind explaining your post? I've read it three times and I'll be darned if I can figure out what you were trying to say or why you made this reply to the post you quoted. Perhaps you have nothing sharper than butter knives in your drawer? Trayvon was making good grades in school and on track to go on to college. z, on the other hand, barely squeaked through high school and has yet to complete a two year degree at the local community college after, what, 4?, 5?, 6? years of classes.
Well, it appears that WaldoKitty - by invoking Darwin - is asserting that by repeatedly provoking violent confrontations with people, George Zimmerman is enhancing his own chances of survival. Threatening to shoot his girlfriend? Issuing death threats during road-rage incidents? Apparently, WaldoKitty finds all of these to be the acts of a survivor - as opposed to what they are: the acts of a hot-headed fool constantly courting danger.

But such is what passes for logic amongst George Zimmerman's fluffers...
 
Old 01-18-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I guess GZ wasn't prepared enough to shoot or he'd have fired before he was on the ground. Unless you think his plan was to sucker TM into getting on top of him and Then shooting.
Once again, another who believes certain actions actually occurred, based soley upon false statements made by the defendant - a defendant who was attemping to save his a____ in any way possible, so he would avoid going to prison again, due to volatile, impulsive behavior.
 
Old 01-18-2015, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Dumbing down the thread, as usual
Hahaha, I wish it was that simple. Conservatives loved this guy and went to bat for him. Who was the thug? An innocent kid or this creep? You can't distance the conservative movement from him now. No matter how hard you try.
 
Old 01-18-2015, 08:21 PM
 
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Doesn't look like it to me. Photos don't lie, only people do.

Trayvon Martin: No innocent adolescent child as portrayed by the corrupted mainstream media moralmatters.org

I might be missing something, but I'm not exactly seeing a Rhodes scholar here.
So you can tell a kid's scholastic ability by looking at a photo of him? Interesting. Pictures don't lie. True. But they only tell a very small part of a story. Do you know if Trayvon was simply clowning around with his friends when the photos were taken(if they are even photos of him)? I've seen plenty of photos of coworkers looking like dorks, thugs, whatever. The same kids who are getting admitted to engineering and medical schools.

While we're looking at the photos on the completely unbiased and totally respectable (LMAO!!!!) site you linked to, let's look at the smirk on z's face in the one and only known photo of his supposedly broken nose. Two things jump out at me. First, he just shot and killed a kid just minutes prior to this photo and yet he's grinning like he just bagged a -6-point buck. WTH???? Secondly, the only time I've ever seen someone with an actual broken nose grin is when they were too drunk or too high to feel the pain. Broken noses hurt like a mother...
 
Old 01-18-2015, 08:44 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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If you go back and seriously take the time to read every one of z's statements from the very beginning, you see very clearly that he contradicts himself frequently and that the evidence does not match up to his claims. He claimed he shot Trayvon because Trayvon was bashing his head on the sidewalk. Really? Just how long is z's neck? Trayvon was shot and killed several feet from the sidewalk, it seems like it was 5 or 6'? Supposedly Trayvon was holding z down and bashing his head on the distant sidewalk as z reached behind his back and pulled out his gun from under his fat hip. Then he somehow got the gun straight up between his and Trayvon's chests and Trayvon, supposedly the aggressor, just lets z shoot him. Oh. That's right. Trayvon supposedly tried to grab the gun. Oh wait! He saw the gun and tried to grab it before z had it out of the holster. You know, the holster behind z's back? So I guess Trayvon must have had x-ray vision. After the trial, z stated that he thought he missed Trayvon (an impossibility with z's story) and was worried the bullet might have gone through someone's house and hit someone. Ok. According to z, he was on his back and shot upward toward Trayvon. If the gun is pointed upward, the bullet is going to go skyward and then return to earth in the same general area. His contradictions and improbabilities continue.

As for the jury, Maddie clearly stated that she believed he was guilty but that it was "explained to" them that he had to have planned to go out and kill Trayvon before he even left his house for them to find him guilty of anything. Later she even stated that the lawyer's wife told them negative things about Trayvon that were not brought up in the trial. Color me crazy but that smacks of juror misconduct in my book. Where did The lawyer's wife get the information she spread amongst the jurors? Was it prior to the trial? She claimed under oath that she hadn't paid attention to the news regarding the shooting. Or did someone tell her about it during the trial, even tho she was told that there was to be no discussion about the case oout of the courtroom. How much of what she reported about Trayvon was actually true? Much of what was stated about Trayvon was questionable, at best. How about the Purple Lean drink he was supposedly going to make with the watermelon drink and Skittles? First off, the candy used is Jolly Rancher, not Skittles. Skittles don't dissolve like Jolly Ranchers. Try it some time. Drop some Skittles in a drink of some sort and leave it over night. Secondly, you have to have access to something with codeine in it, generally cough syrup with codeine (I would imagine that Tylenol with codeine would taste mighty nasty no matter what you mixed it with). Over the counter cough syrup does not have codeine in it. None. The entire trial was a farce and a major embarrassment to Floridians who actually care about truth and justice. The state never brought up crucial points, questions that would have shown z's statements to be ambiguous at best were completely shied away from. Inaccuracies about Trayvon were left smoldering and unaddressed. They lynched a dead black teen.

Having worked in the ER, I can tell you that z did not get much of a beating, if any, by anyone that night. He had three tiny scratches on the back of his head, one of which was actually more on the top of his head. He claimed Trayvon was slamming his head on the pavement yet there were no marks to his face or ears showing where the force had been applied to push his head down and pull it back up. Noses bleed easily. It doesn't take a major bump to get one going. Broken noses bleed a lot. Somehow z's supposedly broken nose had already stopped bleed before he even arrived at SPD, what, a whole 30 minutes later? There wasn't much blood on his clothes and he hadn't needed a towel to catch the blood flow. Didn't even need an ice pack to slow the swelling. A lot of people should be ashamed of themselves for what they allowed to transpire in this case. Personally, I hope they have trouble sleeping at night but I fear their political ambitions are stronger than their consciences.
Excellent -- exactly, which is why many of us have felt as we do. I suppose there will always remain an argument regarding this case, because some refuse to use logic or see the reality, despite these actual points. Thank you.
 
Old 01-18-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: southern california
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another man that stood up to a thug and will never be forgiven. . je suis darren wilson.
 
Old 01-18-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I don't know about all the psycho-babble, but George is just a whacko.

Don
 
Old 01-18-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
You are making a false equivalence fallacy by using a generality to avoid the specifics.

Plenty of teenagers do drugs and make mistakes, and fortunately most have enough sense, due to decent parenting, to know the boundaries between bad behavior and dangerous activity. Most have the morals to avoid attacking others in the community. Martin, apparently lacked this common sense and morals.

TM made the mistake of physically attacking someone when he had full choice to just leave. Now he's dead because of it. Actions have consequences and TM, or rather his so called loved ones, found out what acting like a Thug will get you. I say loved ones because the dead only know they are dead.
You can repeat your nonsense all you want but there is no evidence that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
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