U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-24-2015, 02:59 PM
 
2,073 posts, read 1,390,092 times
Reputation: 746

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellflower View Post
The thread appears longer than it really is: 50-some posts discussing the killer's history and his legal woes, 800 posts by Waldo Kitty announcing "case closed."
Case is closed as far as I'm concerned...

 
Old 01-24-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque area
244 posts, read 181,420 times
Reputation: 1083
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoniDanko View Post
Case is closed as far as I'm concerned...
That's nice. I've yet to meet anyone that would posit otherwise.

Now about our killer...good luck and godspeed to the ladies of Orlando.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 04:14 PM
 
5,220 posts, read 2,375,434 times
Reputation: 5111
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
There are the legal issues, and also non-legal such as what may have been in GZ's mind.

When dispatch advised GZ to stop following, he said OK. To someone who doesn't believe GZ stopped, that moves him even further from the concerned citizen, to cop wannabe with bad intent.
And again, none of that matters. GZ didn't do anything illegal. Certainly nothing that would allow TM to assault him.

As I said earlier, the case started at the moment TM assaulted GZ. The rest is nothing but a distraction.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 04:15 PM
 
5,220 posts, read 2,375,434 times
Reputation: 5111
Quote:
Originally Posted by kokonutty View Post
There was not one scintilla of evidence or testimony produced at trial indicating Martin attacked Zimmerman. A theory postulated by defense counsel is only that, their theory.
If you believe that, you didn't follow the case very closely. What you are claiming is simply not true.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 05:59 PM
 
21 posts, read 13,474 times
Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellflower View Post
The thread appears longer than it really is: 50-some posts discussing the killer's history and his legal woes, 800 posts by Waldo Kitty announcing "case closed."
Can't rep you yet but this is an awesome post! LOL LOL LOL
 
Old 01-24-2015, 06:05 PM
 
19,237 posts, read 11,133,504 times
Reputation: 8386
NOBODY knows who attacked who- Lord!
 
Old 01-24-2015, 06:24 PM
 
9,102 posts, read 4,524,716 times
Reputation: 3727
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
And again, none of that matters. GZ didn't do anything illegal. Certainly nothing that would allow TM to assault him.

As I said earlier, the case started at the moment TM assaulted GZ. The rest is nothing but a distraction.
Your right, because they ended up agreeing it was justifiable self defense. However, ...

jurors don't always strictly follow the letter of the law or will compromise rather than hang. It turned out that the 3 convict jurors changed their minds or caved. Had the three NG's done that instead, whether GZ continued to follow when advised not to vs return to his car, easily could have mattered.

And again, I take the thread as more of a discussion about GZ the person than the verdict.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 10:16 PM
 
298 posts, read 228,942 times
Reputation: 399
Lose him? That's a loaded question that implies TM was obligated to sprint in one direction (away from Zim) in order to not be at fault for his own death. Look up the definition of the Stand Your Ground law. No words in the English language could more accurately describe TM's rights that night. It's sole purpose is to abolish the common law duty of retreat. (Unless you're a teenage black kid, then you must flee everyone, all the time. And then it will be assumed that you're guilty of something else.)

Without reading all of the posts here, I bet a dozen people have written that Zim has every right to walk wherever he wants, as if is not considered stalking (a legal term) when preceding a killing. Pointing that out is exactly the same as saying someone had every right to be swinging a baseball bat. If it's against the rib cage of an unarmed 17 year old though, it is not within his rights.

Re-read the last paragraph from my previous post. FIVE people (that we know of) have been assaulted and/or threatened to be killed with a gun by George Zimmerman. It's foolish, and frankly pathetic, to think that Zimmerman didn't assault and/or threaten to kill the one person in that long list THAT HE ACTUALLY KILLED.

Last edited by TS808; 01-24-2015 at 10:25 PM..
 
Old 01-24-2015, 10:49 PM
 
5,220 posts, read 2,375,434 times
Reputation: 5111
Quote:
Originally Posted by TS808 View Post
Lose him? That's a loaded question that implies TM was obligated to sprint in one direction (away from Zim) in order to not be at fault for his own death. Look up the definition of the Stand Your Ground law. No words in the English language could more accurately describe TM's rights that night. It's sole purpose is to abolish the common law duty of retreat. (Unless you're a teenage black kid, then you must flee everyone, all the time. And then it will be assumed that you're guilty of something else.)
OK, I'll play. I'm pretty familiar with Florida's SYG law. Why don't you tell us how that law gave TM the right to assault GZ.
 
Old 01-24-2015, 11:59 PM
 
6,121 posts, read 3,316,354 times
Reputation: 13007
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
If you believe that, you didn't follow the case very closely. What you are claiming is simply not true.
What kind of sources did you utilize to follow the case very closely? I can't prove the negative. Please supply a link to the tiniest crumb of evidence that indicates Martin attacked Zimmerman. Even paraphrase and indicate what you THINK was evidence at trial showing Martin attacking, if you're so sure of your position.

You are quite wrong, your claims are completely unfounded and unsupported.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Current Events
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top