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You're on the ground getting beat senseless in ground and pound style, and you're still able to reach for your gun (assuming it was at his waist), maneuver it around and fire a fatal shot?
You're on the ground getting beat senseless in ground and pound style, and you're still able to reach for your gun (assuming it was at his waist), maneuver it around and fire a fatal shot?
That's what both the witness testimony and forensic evidence showed.
The problem here is how the "Stand Your Ground" law is written. It needs to be completely overhauled.
Years ago, in Leesburg, FL, a little girl riding at the back of her dad's car was shot dead because her dad and some other moron in a different car were carrying on, road-raging and threatening each other. One man fired, missed, and hit the little girl. The man is out Scott-free.
Both he and the dad realized how stupid their actions were.
Similarly, here we have an armed man stalking an unarmed teen who is simply walking. He instigates a fight, apparently "loses," and so decides to kill the teen.
The law pretty much says that you can kill if you're getting your a$$ kicked and are in fear for your life, which is what he claims he did.
It's a stupid law. It's murder. It's not involuntary. Anyone who thinks he did the right thing is blinded by *insert whatever you want here.*
Whatever anyone thinks of the SYG law, I'd like to see opinions based on an understanding of the law. SYG is nothing at all like what you describe here. Not even close.
Anyone with solid knowledge of standard U.S. law about self-defense, and how it compares to the SYG provision in Florida's law (". . . does not have a duty to retreat . . ."), will understand that SYG was not even relevant in the Zimmerman-Martin case.
And the evidence--not some picture someone just got into his head of how it musta gone down, but evidence--does not support what you describe in the passage in bold. Not even close.
Got a poster right here. Its Titled "American Rights Prevail"
Trying to deflect and make some one else the "Bad Guys" isn't going to work, and that's all you got. You may not believe in the Constitution and are willing to give away all your freedoms supporting Thugs and criminals as "Misunderstood Youth" but some of us aren't. Martin was a thug and a punk, and sealed his own destiny. In GZ's place I would have shot him too. (multiple times) Don't care what you think about it. People can choose a path in life, and if you make a wrong turn, you suffer the consequences. Its that simple..
.Write a letter to your Congressman Tell him you don't believe in a Court System and want Mob Justice legalized. Let me know how that works out for you.
I'm really glad to see someone call attention to the Constitution. I'm sure I'm not the only person who's very concerned about the way people seem to want to throw away our rights just as long as GZ "gets what he deserves"--at least I hope I'm not--but I think this may be the first time in any CD thread about this topic that I've seen anyone but myself express this concern. Thank you for that.
Given a choice, I would prefer the likes of George Zimmerman (neighborhood watch) in my neighborhood at night than the likes of Travon Martin (suspended dope smoker).
Zimmerman, a self-appointed neighborhood watch, couldn't even get that right. No training, no ability to follow directions, carrying a weapon and going about his "patrol" while under a prescription for hallucinatory drugs.
I'll take the kid who may have smoked a little weed, thank you.
Indeed. All these pronouncements here about how he represents a danger to society, but he was not found guilty of the charges by the jury in Florida and even found to be innocent of hate crime by the derelict Obama Administration. These facts speak for themselves.
No, they don't. Do you believe the only people dangerous to society are those who have been found guilty in a court of law? The fact that he was not convicted says NOTHING about whether he is or isn't a danger to others.
Let me try to explain it again so that it doesn't keep going so far above your head.
Weight, for the most part is irrelevant. A skinny person can still beat the snot out of a much heavier person. What do you not understand about this?
Weight is in no way irrelevant. If it were, professional fighters wouldn't be classified into weight categories. About all that can be said is that weight by itself does not necessarily determine the outcome of a fight.
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