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Old 01-17-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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It's not a single generation problem and your last link says a rate slightly below 2.1 is okay. The US is more than 9.5% below that with a declining trend. If you can't see the potential problem and that it's more than a generations issue I don't know what to tell you. Please ask Japan if it a generation issue


Your first link is silly, oil will only last until 2050? Green optimist lulz, the other two are alarmist as well. If you believe it I understand your stance
Japan's birthrate has been below our 1.88 since 1976, since then Japan's GDP has gone up 10 fold. I would say the population isn't the whole problem, if any. Japan was massively overinflated and has been coming down to more reasonable levels. GDP per capita is inversely proportional to birthrate across the globe.
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Old 01-17-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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Are you blind ?

Our government is PRO letting the illegals come here and work and go to school and raise their families.
Enforcement has become more lax if anything due to the Fed telling states NOT to interfere.

I'm not blind at all but you should address each issue instead of lumping them
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm not blind at all but you should address each issue instead of lumping them
You really think they are separate issues ?

Mandating paid time off for employees won't increase the number of illegals already working ?

My friend, they are all connected issues. They are not separate.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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Almost anything can create a disability but lets not use word games. An otherwise normal pregnancy and birth are choices. The financial burden to facilitate that pregnancy and birth should belong with the woman (since men have no enforceable decision in the matter other than perhaps participating in the sex). Get insurance and if needed, insurance that covers the loss of pay during that time, it is available but others shouldn't be paying for it.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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This is nothing more than another do less and get more scheme.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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France had laws that mandated a 32-hour work week and that made it nearly impossible to fire an employee. The idea was to give people free time off work and to keep people employed. Like all liberal ideas, it had the opposite effect. Because employers couldn't work employees more than 32 hours, they moved operations, shut down or outsourced work to contractors. Because they can't fire most employees, they just don't hire employees.

SO.....the liberal intention was to keep jobs with time off. The result was to keep people from getting jobs.
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Old 01-17-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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Why want equality; then say you want inequality. If a company gives one paid leave for whatever then they should give the other same. Its up to the company :IMO.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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France had laws that mandated a 32-hour work week and that made it nearly impossible to fire an employee. The idea was to give people free time off work and to keep people employed. Like all liberal ideas, it had the opposite effect. Because employers couldn't work employees more than 32 hours, they moved operations, shut down or outsourced work to contractors. Because they can't fire most employees, they just don't hire employees.

SO.....the liberal intention was to keep jobs with time off. The result was to keep people from getting jobs.
It's obvious, isn't it? They didn't go far enough. In addition to the 32 hour max and no fire, they needed more laws -- ones preventing businesses from moving or outsourcing, and ones requiring businesses to hire employees. The problem was they weren't fully committed to central control of the factors of production.

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Old 01-20-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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I think people on here sometimes just talk to entertain themselves and see how much silly nonsense they can spout. If by chance some of you are serious, explain what you think should happen, because I'm seeing few viable solutions. For maternity situations, women should:

1. Stop having babies if they aren't wealthy or upper-middle class.
2. They should have enough money saved up to finance 6-8 weeks of maternity leave
3. If they don't have this money saved up, they should plan to report to work maybe a week after having a baby.

I was reading an online forum the other day, and women were sharing stories of returning to work two, three days, maybe a week after birthing babies because they couldn't afford to miss work. Sounds like many of you are okay with this.

I just look at our society sometimes and shake my head. We have truly become a heartless, cold, callous society, yet folks are so quick to jump up and claim they are "Christlike". :-/
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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...because they value that person's skills and it would cost money to hire and re-train someone else to do that job. Also, in the long run it improves the morale of THAT employee and others who also have families or will have families, whether male or female.

Businesses must learn that now (maybe always) people WORK to LIVE, they don't LIVE to WORK. Work needs to provide accommodations so people can live full and balanced lives. Because in the long term, jobs/companies/businesses that don't consider those needs will fail and they certainly fail society. Society requires work and families to thrive.
It's not the job of business to support society. That's a bi-product of business. And if you CHOOSE to work to live, then you might be living a little less opulently. That's just reality. But to insist on a "balanced" life (which I assume means little to no responsibility, clock out after 8 hours, get lots of vacation and sick days) you will not make as much money as someone that works harder than you do.

Everyone is assuming that every pregnant women has high value to their employer. Valuing a person's skills, and having to spend money to hire and retrain someone else isn't always the case. In fact, if that person does have value, chances are they're already working for an employer that offers more benefits, such as paid maternity leave. So once again, our government is going to force businesses to cater to the lowest common denominator. How long do you think this will fly before those that ARE worth more just give up?

PS: it's also not a businesses obligation to improve the morale of any of their employee's home lives.
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