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Old 01-15-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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and paid maternity leave. On the maternity leave, isn't that a choice and a very personal one? Why should anyone else pay someone's time off to have a baby?
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Old 01-15-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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My company allows 16 weeks for maternity, 13 weeks short term disability, 39 weeks of long term, non exempt employees have 6 sick/personal days. I think it's great but I'm not sure what the point of your thread is
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Old 01-15-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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and paid maternity leave. On the maternity leave, isn't that a choice and a very personal one? Why should anyone else pay someone's time off to have a baby?
They shouldn't. If you have PTO or other time off accumulated I think it would be fine to use it up, but to just pay someone who doesn't have any time saved up seems crazy.
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Old 01-15-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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If males were having the babies, nobody would complain about paid maternity leave. It would have been written into the Bill of Rights!
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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Paid sick leave is an incentive for workers to stay home when they're sick. The same people complaining about enforced paid sick leave are the same ones complaining when people show up at the workplace with a fever.
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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and paid maternity leave. On the maternity leave, isn't that a choice and a very personal one? Why should anyone else pay someone's time off to have a baby?
Should she go on welfare instead? Go broke? SOMETHING has to happen, because women aren't going to stop having babies and they're not going to stop needing to eat and pay rent while pregnant. So either the government/charities pays for her living expenses, or her employer does. Which do you pick?
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:02 PM
 
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Women don't make babies by themselves.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I am in favor of companies having PTO. Everyone is given the same amount of paid time off for sick leave, vacation time, doctor visits or however they wish to use the days in an hour bank after they have been working at the company for a given number of months just like a traditional company awards sick time or vacation time after so many weeks or months of new employment.

The hours are not separated into categories. More hours are accumulated as the employee continues to work for the company.

In other words, there are no sick days, no maternity leave, no vacation days. There are just hours anyone can take for whatever reason they need as long as the hours are accrued in their bank. Reasons to use the time whether it's to take time off for maternity leave or time off to attend a class. If you have the time you can take it, if not, you can't. It cuts down on arbitrary decision making as far as who gets time off for what.

I have worked for a couple of companies that used this PTO method and it worked very well. The time given has always been far more generous in these companies than those that have separated time out for the individual categories.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:08 PM
 
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and paid maternity leave. On the maternity leave, isn't that a choice and a very personal one? Why should anyone else pay someone's time off to have a baby?
This is one of those debates that is emotional in nature. It sounds so good to many people they will never see the costs. Paid maternity leave tends to make employer reticent to hire younger women. Both would increase the cost of employing people. Whenever you increase the cost of employing people, someone has to pay the cost. Typically that means the cost gets passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. It also increases the incentives for employers to made due with fewer workers. There is no free lunch.
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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This is one of those debates that is emotional in nature. It sounds so good to many people they will never see the costs. Paid maternity leave tends to make employer reticent to hire younger women. Both would increase the cost of employing people. Whenever you increase the cost of employing people, someone has to pay the cost. Typically that means the cost gets passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. It also increases the incentives for employers to made due with fewer workers. There is no free lunch.
Horse Feathers! Women give birth the the servants to the capitalists. It's the circle of life. If you don't like that, let's go to full fledged socialism where profit and greed will no longer motivate the human race.
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