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Old 01-27-2015, 09:37 AM
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If a supervisor ever did that to me somebody would be hospitalized and that somebody would not be me. That might happen now. When I was 22 it would have been a certainty.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Utopian Slums View Post
^ This isn't odd at all. If it was a suicide, sounds like he made a calculated decision to do so.

Very sad story. Usually a company would just bully an employee into quitting. I've seen this at the managerial level of various companies used w various amounts of success. I've also been victim of it myself.

I'm aware of corporate bullying to make people quit. My relative ran into it while working for GE.

They thought the kid in question had been stealing (correct or not) but didn't bring charges it was just a single event per the statement from the lawsuit that supposedly triggered it.

I'd caution about reading too much into things, we haven't gotten both sides of the story and I'd like to know what he was doing at the Mariott, toxicology etc.

I had a friend kill himself around that age. He'd always been a bit off, but that was 25 years ago before all these terms and diagnosis. Never heard details, didn't want to know them, I was away at school and found out when I came home on break.
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:43 AM
Location: Florida
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She has to blame his mental condition and ability....or lack of it....to handle stress, not Target.
It's a retailer, not a mental health facility.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:13 AM
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Is there a news outlet other that Yahoo that has run a story on this?
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:35 AM
Location: Mississippi
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This story just seems a bit off to me. It's terrible that her son killed himself, but he made that decision. It appears that he was a troubled young man who needed some help, and I think his mom in her grief is looking for someone to blame.
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:45 PM
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I am interested to see how this pans out, I have my doubts about this story. I will say this, if an investigation finds that this is a secret policy of Target, I hope they not only get taken to the cleaners with this lawsuit, but then gets fined on top of it. I know if someone tried that nonsense with me, Target would be known for a new shade of red. That point, however, is moot if it is found that the whole lawsuit is a bunch of BS, which I would think would be the more likely outcome.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:27 PM
Location: Lakewood OH
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In the last place I worked, a large insurance company, when an employee was fired they were escorted out the door by a security guard if there was any kind of altercation. I remember getting fired from a smaller company with the supervisor hovering over me while I cleared out my desk. She escorted me to the door after I had collected my things. It's common at most places when they fire someone. People don't kill themselves over it.

Most people just take it in stride. In my case, it was a problem between my supervisor and me and I got even by collecting unemployment compensation. I pi$$ed her off by stopping by people's desks to say goodbye. No "walk of shame" here. I turned it into a stroll of "see 'ya."

People don't feel ashamed normally. Annoyed, maybe, angry yes. But not so horrible as to kill themselves. This poor soul had mental problems to begin with and you can't blame Target which was probably acting like every other corporate a$$.

I doubt the handcuff part of the story but if this guy was being unruly, it could be. I would like to hear Target's side and see what was on the video.

As far as the suicide, people don't do that over just one thing. There might be one incident that pushes them over the top but there is usually a buildup to that moment. Even if Target is out of line in their methods of firing I don't see anything illegal here and there is nothing to tie the suicide to the former guy's death. I don't think they can tie the death to probable cause which I think they would have to do. Maybe it would encourage Target to be a bit kinder when they fire people though. That would be one good thing to come from this.
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