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Old 02-02-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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I haven't come across that info. Could you post a link or two, please?

The woman quoted below is one of several with similarly questionable statements.

The Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby Of Rape - Business Insider

"Bowman, now 47, said she met Cosby in 1985 when she was a 17-year-old aspiring actress. He became a father figure and mentor to her, she said.
She claimed Cosby drugged and raped her several times during the two years they knew each other. Bowman told the Daily Mail that he flew her all over the country and invited her to attend events with him to "see if [she] was worth mentoring and grooming" for an acting career.
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I am glad we saw him perform in 1979. He was great.
Now, he is reaping what he sowed and he deserves it. Were times different then? Yes, but I refuse to blame the victims.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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I am glad we saw him perform in 1979. He was great.
Now, he is reaping what he sowed and he deserves it. Were times different then? Yes, but I refuse to blame the victims.
What victims? No court has declared any of these women to be a victim of anything, as far as I know.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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I'm not sure what anyone is "closing in on". IIRC, the statute of limitations expired on these alleged assaults quite some time ago.
I doubt anyone thinks the wording is official. LOL
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The number of accusers is neither here nor there. Especially in a case like this, where there is the possibility of a copycat effect. What matters is that there is ONE accuser with solid evidence, and as far as I know, we don't have that.

If Cosby raped 25 women, doesn't it seem probable that at least one of them would have gone to police, gotten him charged, and wound up with a conviction? Maybe the more accusers, the less likely he did any of them.
This would only be possible in the era after rape kits and special police procedures for handling rape victims were "invented" and adopted, and after the women's movement did a lot of awareness-raising about the importance of coming forward in rape cases and filing charges. Roughly, during or after the 1980's. Before then, rape was considered too shameful (to the victim) to mention at all, there were no rape kits or hospital protocols, victims weren't believed (and still aren't), and trials normally turned against the victim, who was dragged through the mud if she had anything remotely resembling promiscuity at any point in her past. She was then considered to be not credible.

So if we narrow it down to cases after 1989, say, yes, we could ask why none of those victims ever went to police or to a hospital for an exam.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Not necessarily important, but in a court the verdict is either guilty or not guilty.... never innocent.
This is because you are already presumed to be innocent unless convicted.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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When it comes to women saying something and waiting until others speak out, how many men here would consider a relationship with a woman who was in the media, having said they were raped by Cosby? Be honest, most men would probably not want the relationship. No wonder women are hesitant to say anything until much later. Did that same test apply to all the young boys damaged by Catholic Priests? Yes, at some point they became adults but even then it took often many years. Celebrities have power they wield against anyone they think can harm their reputations, Cosby is no different. The man is lucky he didn't rape the woman who had a Father that believed in old style reckonings.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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When it comes to women saying something and waiting until others speak out, how many men here would consider a relationship with a woman who was in the media, having said they were raped by Cosby? Be honest, most men would probably not want the relationship. No wonder women are hesitant to say anything until much later. Did that same test apply to all the young boys damaged by Catholic Priests? Yes, at some point they became adults but even then it took often many years. Celebrities have power they wield against anyone they think can harm their reputations, Cosby is no different. The man is lucky he didn't rape the woman who had a Father that believed in old style reckonings.
Good point. And there have been recent revelations about routine sexual exploitation of private boarding school boys by teachers, that took place back in the 1970's or 80's. The victims were too traumatized to speak up, and school administrators who knew about it and covered it up were still in place. After a change of admin, and after the Jerry Sandusky case, suddenly lawsuits were initiated.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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What victims? No court has declared any of these women to be a victim of anything, as far as I know.
Not yet. Let's just assume that all the women have a pact to make up stories about Bill Cosby. He might never be convicted of anything after all these years, but that doesn't mean he didn't do it.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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Not necessarily important, but in a court the verdict is either guilty or not guilty.... never innocent.
Not true, a person found to be not guilty can petition to be found "factually innocent". That eliminates the question as to whether there was insufficient evidence to convict. If a person is found not guilty of a crime and the facts prove they could not have committed the crime, they can petition for a "factually innocent" verdict. One reason so few people pursue this is because so often the reason they are found not guilty has more to do with the prosecution nit being able to reach their burden of proof but the accused can't bring forth facts to prove it was impossible for them to have done it.
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