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Old 02-02-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: in the mountains
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It's not a personal injury action it's a class action under the NJ Consumer Fraud Act.

Two different things.

The NJ Consumer Fraud division is strong.
I see, but if you look at the text of the original article, they used the word "damages", I know this could also mean financial damages, so that's why my point was what for, when both stores have a return policy and they will literally give you your money back if you are not satisfied?!

Also, why would you continue to repeatedly purchase bread that you were not satisfied, and then sue the store to recoup all your financial losses on buying the bread? It makes no sense at all
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Fresh can mean just made with no preservatives.
Fresh doesn't mean baked on premises.

There are some breads/rolls in my supermarket that are "baked fresh on premises" every day and the bakery is very open so you can see what comes out of their ovens.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I decided to look up the web definition of the word "fraud." I don't see where it fits here. I don't think the store was committing fraud especially because it gave a money back guarantee if the customer was not satisfied. I would think that intent to fraud would have to be proven.

I never pay attention to the word "fresh" until, as I stated before, I can see the bread came out of the ovens, the eggs come out of the chickens, or the apples come down from the trees. To me, that would be fresh.

Otherwise the word "fresh" just meant the goods didn't belong in the bargain bin about to pass their sell-by date.

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noun
noun fraud plural noun frauds
wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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I know that in my area, Whole Foods has a local bakery that does all the bread for all the stores here. They make the various breads up and then they partially bake and freeze them in a blast chiller. Then they ship to the stores nearby and they pull them to defrost and finish the baking process. I assume other stores are similar. They can't really fully bake and then freeze as it would not remain tasty long enough, but the par-bake process is well understood and gives you good, fresh tasting bread. Parbaking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They also have a separate Gluten Free bakehouse as well that is in a different building from the normal one.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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I know that in my area, Whole Foods has a local bakery that does all the bread for all the stores here. They make the various breads up and then they partially bake and freeze them in a blast chiller. Then they ship to the stores nearby and they pull them to defrost and finish the baking process. I assume other stores are similar. They can't really fully bake and then freeze as it would not remain tasty long enough, but the par-bake process is well understood and gives you good, fresh tasting bread. Parbaking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They also have a separate Gluten Free bakehouse as well that is in a different building from the normal one.
Sounds like fresh baked bread to me.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:25 AM
 
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I'm going to guess that the Whole Foods in Ridgewood does not sell pre-baked donuts.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:41 AM
 
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It may seem litigious and perhaps it really is; but there needs to me more truth in advertising anyway. Especially at the food supply level, grocery stores, food manufacturers, re-sellers, they need to be held to higher standards than they are today. Billions of dollars are made doing bait and switch when it comes to selling "food" and I don't think that's ok since we are talking about people's health.

I don't know the specifics of this case but if something is marketed as though it is fresh, made in the store, then it better be. If lawsuits like this are necessary to make that happen, then so be it.
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Look for an increase in the cost of Wegman's breads.
Wegmans (there's no apostrophe) doesn't need an excuse to raise prices. Every time we leave that store I feel as if I've helped pay for another one of Danny's Canandaigua castles.

I grew up with Wegmans, and love the store all day long, but you have to know how to shop around here.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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It may seem litigious and perhaps it really is; but there needs to me more truth in advertising anyway. Especially at the food supply level, grocery stores, food manufacturers, re-sellers, they need to be held to higher standards than they are today. Billions of dollars are made doing bait and switch when it comes to selling "food" and I don't think that's ok since we are talking about people's health.

I don't know the specifics of this case but if something is marketed as though it is fresh, made in the store, then it better be. If lawsuits like this are necessary to make that happen, then so be it.
Fresh bread literally means bread that is fresh, usually without preservatives

Fresh baked bread literally means the exact same thing

Fresh bread baked in store means the above, plus it is baked at that location

None of these means that the flour was ground in store, the dough was made in store, the wheat was grown in store, or that the pre-baked ingredients were never frozen. It is the bread that is fresh, not the dough. The ingredients are just ingredients.

Before it is baked, there IS no bread, only dough. There is no such thing as partially baked bread. Before it is finished, it isn't bread.

This suit is going nowhere.
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