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Old 02-08-2015, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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... You have no idea if he consciously said it and knew he was wrong, or if he really just remembered it wrong. I don't know either....only Brian Williams knows ...
But here's the thing — this helicopter incident isn't the only time he's said things in news reports that others there dispute. Many people in New Orleans say they complained to NBC about exaggerated statements he made during Hurricane Katrina that were false. He said he "watched bodies floating by" when, according to the hotel where he stayed in the French Quarter, there was never more than five inches of water on the street where they are located.

He also claimed, “My week, two weeks there was not helped by the fact that I accidentally ingested some of the floodwater. I became very sick with dysentery, our hotel was overrun with gangs, I was rescued in the stairwell of a five-star hotel in New Orleans by a young police officer. We are friends to this day. And uh, it just was uh, I look back at total agony.” The hotel disputes all of those statements and those are just some of the the highly dramatic pictures he painted that some believe were made up out of whole cloth.

NBC News anchor Brian Williams' comments about dead bodies, Hurricane Katrina starting to gain attention, draw scrutiny | News | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:51 AM
 
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A mistake? How do you make a mistake about being in a helicopter that wasn't hit by enemy fire and forced to land? Then he has the gall to claim he was trying to honor service men and women when all this guy was trying to do was honor himself.

He is IMO despicable and should be shamed publicly. Now lets not drag out the names of others because this isn't about anyone else but Brian Williams ok? He is a journalist who is supposed to report facts, not fabricate lies to make himself important.

He is a shameful person, not worthy of reporting on the results of a dog race let alone the news. He has forever proven he can't be trusted.

There is no way he made a mistake, how could that be? Could you be a hour behind a car accident and then mistakenly remember that you were in the car that got hit? Really?
Maybe he was under sniper fire with Hillary, which was just as absurd a claim when she made it back in 2008.
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Old 02-08-2015, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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But here's the thing — this helicopter incident isn't the only time he's said things in news reports that others there dispute. Many people in New Orleans say they complained to NBC about exaggerated statements he made during Hurricane Katrina that were false. He said he "watched bodies floating by" when, according to the hotel where he stayed in the French Quarter, there was never more than five inches of water on the street where they are located.

He also claimed, “My week, two weeks there was not helped by the fact that I accidentally ingested some of the floodwater. I became very sick with dysentery, our hotel was overrun with gangs, I was rescued in the stairwell of a five-star hotel in New Orleans by a young police officer. We are friends to this day. And uh, it just was uh, I look back at total agony.” The hotel disputes all of those statements and those are just some of the the highly dramatic pictures he painted that some believe were made up out of whole cloth.

NBC News anchor Brian Williams' comments about dead bodies, Hurricane Katrina starting to gain attention, draw scrutiny | News | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana
I'd like to hear more about this.

Since he is interested in returning the man is truly living without a conscience. He is toast.

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“We were told not to drink our bottled water in front of people because we could get killed for it.”
Yeah, right.
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Old 02-08-2015, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's amazing some posters here are so willing to let something like this slide by with excuses.
Must be we've become so inured to lying that it's become expected and accepted.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:57 AM
 
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I like Brian Williams and I hope he sticks around.

I've never expected him to be perfect and I can handle a few faux pas without feeling like he's been lying to me the entire time.
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I like Brian Williams and I hope he sticks around.

I've never expected him to be perfect and I can handle a few faux pas without feeling like he's been lying to me the entire time.

faux pas??
He didn't just use the wrong fork.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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This is simply the latest example of Brian Williams' unsuitability for the job. His examples of bias and unprofessionalism are legion (remember his "aside" when reporting on Trump, that he'd "long ago taken the road to irrelevancy?") Sounds like a stick-to-the-facts reporter to me.

Now he's a liar, and he's been lying about and embroidering that tale for over a decade. We all know that's something a real hero (a veteran) wouldn't be doing.

And for that he decides to .....take a vacation.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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I like Brian Williams and I hope he sticks around.

I've never expected him to be perfect and I can handle a few faux pas without feeling like he's been lying to me the entire time.
Do you apply that standard to others you know, say friends and family members?

Just where do you draw the line in deciding what is a faux pas and what is a lie? Marriage vows or ???
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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Kind of like Al Gore's blatant lies about Vietnam?


You mean he lied about Vietnam in addition to lying about inventing the internet?
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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If Ronald Reagan could take scenes from his films and put them in speeches as if they not only happened, but imply that he was there, I don't see the problem. Nobody said Reagan should be fired for "misremembering."

On Reagan: "For another thing, he sometimes described movie scenes as if they had happened in real life. Speaking to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society in December 1983, he told a World War II story of a B-17 captain whose plane had been hit and who was unable to drag his wounded young ball-turret gunner out of the turret; instead of parachuting to safety with the rest of the crew, the captain took the frightened boy's hand and said, "Never mind, son, we'll ride it down together." Reagan concluded by telling the society that the captain had been posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. But no such person existed: the story came from the 1946 movie A Wing and a Prayer. Within a month of this event Reagan told the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir that the roots of his concern for Israel could be traced back to World War II, when he, as a Signal Corps photographer, had filmed the horrors of the Nazi death camps. Reagan, however, did not leave California during World War II; he had apparently seen a documentary about the camps. "

https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/...rald-blue.html


So the Gipper told a few white lies, big deal. Reagan made a few blunders (immigration, Afghanistan), but most important is that he made the country feel good after that no good Jimmy Carter drove the country and its optimism right into the ground.
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