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Old 02-07-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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One of the vaguest, most delusory words in the dictionary, a favorite of politicians: jobs! Next favorite word: changes!

Of course, for political reasons, they won't expand on what type of jobs, doesn't matter to voters, jobs are jobs are jobs!

5 million part-time jobs, it will still work magic on the voters!
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:35 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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One of the vaguest, most delusory words in the dictionary, a favorite of politicians: jobs! Next favorite word: changes!

Of course, for political reasons, they won't expand on what type of jobs, doesn't matter to voters, jobs are jobs are jobs!

5 million part-time jobs, it will still work magic on the voters!
Especially when lots of people see part-time jobs as a stepping stone to permanent status at some point.
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Old 02-08-2015, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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This situation is the result of teaching a couple of generations of business school graduates that cutting costs and improving profits is the be all and end all of every business. Things like providing their customers with high quality products at fair prices and their host community with jobs can not be counted toward Mammon's sacred bottom line and thus are not counted. It is as obvious as it is shortsighted that when only the things that can be counted count your business has a very short future. Modern business management is not a science or a profession. It is a religion based on false belief resulting in predictable but disappointing results.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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Is this because Americans still refuse to do certain jobs. I hear that many IT jobs are now on the "don't want to do" job list now. Business have to search for more H1-B visa applicants to fill jobs.

Says Gallup CEO:

ďThe number of full-time jobs, and thatís what everybody wants, as a percent of the total population, is the lowest itís ever beenÖ The other thing that is very misleading about that number is the more people that drop out, the better the number gets. In the recession we lost 13 million jobs. Only 3 million have come back. You donít see that in that number. ď
Employers can hire as much as they want at the market clearing wages. They don't want to pay those wages, so they use H1-B.

It is not, not even once, a case of there being 0 qualified workers in America.

For instance, you can buy all the gold and diamonds you want at the market clearing rate. However, if you had the option, you would ignore the local market and look for a government permit to pay one fourth as much and import it from another country.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Employers can hire as much as they want at the market clearing wages. They don't want to pay those wages, so they use H1-B.

It is not, not even once, a case of there being 0 qualified workers in America.

For instance, you can buy all the gold and diamonds you want at the market clearing rate. However, if you had the option, you would ignore the local market and look for a government permit to pay one fourth as much and import it from another country.
Sounds more like the government has placed a restriction on the diamond market such that rates are 4x as much as what they should be then. Ideally the market would be opened up so everyone could benefit from paying 25% for diamonds rather than paying the marked up rate provided by government restrictions. That would probably hurt the domestic diamond producing industry, but the economy as a whole would benefit. Needs of the many.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:36 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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The only way a person should be in a part-time position is through an agency after going through all UC benefits and don't have much of a choice. Other than that no one should be applying for a part-time position unless it's for a side job.
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Old 02-08-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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It's another misleading title and thread. It's not the number of FT jobs, but the percentage vs. the total population. With about 4 million boomers turning 65 each year, many will need PT jobs and not FT jobs. The labor force participation rate drops from 65% for 55-64 age group to only 19% after age 65.

Civilian labor force participation rates by age, sex, race, and ethnicity

Many will need disability and won't be able to work full-time.
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Throwing out all the illegals and most of the H1Bs would be a great start.
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