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Old 02-08-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Quite the opposite:

Juvenile Arrest Rate Trends

Juvenile Crime Rate Continues to Drop | Equal Justice Initiative

http://johnjayresearch.org/rec/files...abit201304.pdf

Carry on with hysterical, misinformed premise that the youth of today are all out-of-control violent felons.

But note that the juvenile homicide arrest rate is 43% lower than it was in 1960, the supposed halcyon days of Ward and June-style child-rearing.
Oh, pshaw. Why let facts get in the way of a good soapbox?
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:40 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I don't know how everybody else feels about this, but from what I've noticed I'd say criminals are becoming younger and more brutal! And what rational killer would take a selfie with the body and incriminate himself?

Jeannette teen, charged with killing another, took 'selfie' with body | TribLIVE Mobile
Killers aren't rational in the first place, they are selfish.

This is a pretty sick case and that 17 year old is a real killer and will be in jail for the rest of his life. Doesn't get much colder than taking pictures.

White lives matter to!
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Just don't understand how anyone could slaughter a fellow human being......I can only understand killing in self defense.

This particular case is quite appalling......seems like the teen killed then made a sick post on the internet, posing with the body, awful.

Just like here in Spokane, two teens beat a 88yo war veteran to death, what a horrible way to end your life. One of them was sentenced to 20 years.......probably do 10 and get out.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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I think a lot has to do with how much the digital age of information has progressed and become very mainstream. I'm fairly certain the world has always been filled with such terrible stories as the one mentioned in the OP, it's just that in the past we were more sheltered from that information. Now we can't log on to the net for some simple search without being bombarded with terrible news from around the world.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing. Too many parents want to be their childrens best friends instead of parent and there are the ones in which the father is out of their lives for whatever reason. It is a shame.
These little narcissistic sociopaths want you to believe it's all their parent's fault.
Don't fall for it. Kids (or young adults) can behave if they want to.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing. Too many parents want to be their childrens best friends instead of parent and there are the ones in which the father is out of their lives for whatever reason. It is a shame.
Absolutely! My niece is autistic. Now I know plenty of autistic children that have a conscience and are sweet and caring, however my sister swears on her life that her pediatrician told her when her dtr was just 9 months old that autistic children lack empathy! What? well now my niece is 18 years old, and due to my sister spoiling this child rotten, she has no friends, goes around stomping and screaming and no one can stand to be around her, they bought her a new car and went into bankruptcy just so she could say she has a car, she stole my grandmother's pain medication and blamed it on another relative(she simply threw them down the toilet)because she was mad at them, my grandmother has cancer!!! My sister will not speak to me anymore because I told her she raised a narcissistic psychopath!...but she seriously has never disciplined this child because she did have special needs and instead of getting her the proper help she was lazy and just handed her things to shut her up! but yes I do think upbringing has a lot to do with it!
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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OP: Your thread title caught my eye as I was recently thinking about this (not as it relates to youth, but all ages).

I think the subject of "conscience" is worth some discussion. To me its knowing right and whats wrong (in human behavior) and doing the right thing.. Anybody remember a character named Jiminy Cricket?

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140112040324


Mike
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Kids are generally stupid and many of them are being raised without caring parents or ones that are working all the time to make ends meet.
Maybe it is perception but I think kids are being exposed to more violence then kids did back in the day given the movies, video games and general acceptance of violence in society. The social media outlets and news cast don't help by showing the latest beheadings or burning of captives.
Most kids have been brought closer by social media and probably know of anther kid who was either murdered or killed in a car crash or overdosed on the plethora of drugs available today.
I think kids are not smart enough to weigh the consequences of their actions and many lack a gauge of what is appropriate. Some grow out of it and get a clue while others wind up dead or in jail.
Who knows back in the day kid criminals may not have been extreme or maybe they were and we never heard about it?
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Tidewater, VA
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I guess you've never heard of the Briley Brothers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briley_Brothers
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: southern kansas
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Kids are generally stupid and many of them are being raised without caring parents or ones that are working all the time to make ends meet.
Maybe it is perception but I think kids are being exposed to more violence then kids did back in the day given the movies, video games and general acceptance of violence in society. The social media outlets and news cast don't help by showing the latest beheadings or burning of captives.
Most kids have been brought closer by social media and probably know of anther kid who was either murdered or killed in a car crash or overdosed on the plethora of drugs available today.
I think kids are not smart enough to weigh the consequences of their actions and many lack a gauge of what is appropriate. Some grow out of it and get a clue while others wind up dead or in jail.
Who knows back in the day kid criminals may not have been extreme or maybe they were and we never heard about it?
In the pre-internet/24 hr news cycle days, news about crimes like this remained more 'local'. It had to be something particularly heinous or brutal, or involving a celebrity, to be picked up by the wire services and make it into the newspaper or on tv news. The exception was mass killings like Charles Starkweather & his girlfriend did in Nebraska in the late 50's, and the Charles Whitman sniper killings in Texas in '66'. They most certainly made the national news, but were relatively rare. You just didn't hear about all the daily street crime killings that were as common then as they are now.
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