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Old 02-12-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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With the stroke of a pen, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback erased protections offered to LGBT state employees facing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.

Governor orders end to LGBT protected class

What is more important than LGBT's 'rights', are American children who are brainwashed every school day. Because these children are the real victims! Where are our children's rights?

I guess the Indian Dark Indigent Other Types (IDIOTS) don't stand a chance....just when it was meaning so little to all of us.....Hoover Dam!
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Who determines what actions are deemed bigoted? Those who seek special treatment? Yeah, that makes sense.

How about you stop asking for special treatment and stop crying bigot when others don't accept your reality as truth.
Bigot: From Merriam‑Webster

a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group.

You don't think that describes you? lol!
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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I'm guessing in the same place your right to "bump uglies with the opposite sex" is located
Best. Response. Ever.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Really? So why are florist, baker and photographer's rights to religious freedom and rights to earn a living being determined as a result of special treatment for homosexuals?
Treatment on par with blacks, Jews etc. is "special"?

It appears you feel being obliged to extend the same courtesy to the minority as is extended to the majority constitutes "special" treatment. That's - not the case.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I tend not to tolerate people who want me to shut up and pretend that New Speak is reality. And that my rights should be superceded to make a minority of society feel good about themselves.
Awww.. so you're mad you don't have the right to shove gay people back into the closet? To turn them away from public services? To deny them the rights of marriage?
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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No one forced them to open a family business 40 years ago, but one gay couple (who had been customers for over 9 years) can destroy a legacy because they had to walk across the street to get a cake.

If you think that endears the gay community and their "fight for equality" to the community at large, you are crazy. It's not about homophobia, it is about the militant attitude that gays require more than tolerance or even acceptance. There is no middle ground with gays, either embrace and celebrate homosexuality willingly or WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

It is not about being treated "equally" it is about being treated specially and by trampling on the rights of others to prove their "equality."

Gays have become the bullies they detest, they just refuse to deal with it.

Awesome post!!

Not just the gay lesbian stuff, but so much other stuff.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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No one forced them to open a family business 40 years ago, but one gay couple (who had been customers for over 9 years) can destroy a legacy because they had to walk across the street to get a cake.

If you think that endears the gay community and their "fight for equality" to the community at large, you are crazy. It's not about homophobia, it is about the militant attitude that gays require more than tolerance or even acceptance. There is no middle ground with gays, either embrace and celebrate homosexuality willingly or WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

It is not about being treated "equally" it is about being treated specially and by trampling on the rights of others to prove their "equality."

Gays have become the bullies they detest, they just refuse to deal with it.
Yes, how dare those gays trample on your rights to trample on their rights.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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No one forced them to open a family business 40 years ago, but one gay couple (who had been customers for over 9 years) can destroy a legacy because they had to walk across the street to get a cake.

If you think that endears the gay community and their "fight for equality" to the community at large, you are crazy. It's not about homophobia, it is about the militant attitude that gays require more than tolerance or even acceptance. There is no middle ground with gays, either embrace and celebrate homosexuality willingly or WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

It is not about being treated "equally" it is about being treated specially and by trampling on the rights of others to prove their "equality."

Gays have become the bullies they detest, they just refuse to deal with it.
I bet there were small businesses that shut down rather than serve black people as well after an end was put to Jim Crow laws.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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No one forced them to open a family business 40 years ago, but one gay couple (who had been customers for over 9 years) can destroy a legacy because they had to walk across the street to get a cake.

If you think that endears the gay community and their "fight for equality" to the community at large, you are crazy. It's not about homophobia, it is about the militant attitude that gays require more than tolerance or even acceptance. There is no middle ground with gays, either embrace and celebrate homosexuality willingly or WE WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

It is not about being treated "equally" it is about being treated specially and by trampling on the rights of others to prove their "equality."

Gays have become the bullies they detest, they just refuse to deal with it.
The shop in Oregon opened AFTER the laws were already in place. But it wouldn't matter since business laws change all the time and that doesn't give older businesses the right to ignore the law.

How is being served a product that a business CHOSE to offer for sale "special treatment"?
How is having the SAME legal protections as any other couple "special rights"?


If you can not serve a product to all customers, then do not serve that product. No one is forcing you to offer that product for sale.

Now can we get back to the laws about EMPLOYMENT that this thread is about? The bakery thing has been done to death. They broke the law, they got in trouble, just like anyone else would.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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No one forced them to open a family business 40 years ago, but one gay couple (who had been customers for over 9 years) can destroy a legacy because they had to walk across the street to get a cake.
No one forced black customers to sit at the whites-only lunch counter. Separate but equal, right?

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It is not about being treated "equally" it is about being treated specially and by trampling on the rights of others to prove their "equality."
No special treatment at all. They wanted a cake, like every other presumably non-special couple. The baker didn't want to deal with, y'know,their kind. Made it very clear, even.

I don't feel bad for the baker at all. They can put a big sign saying "No homosexuals allowed" on their church and on their private property, but a business that's open to the public? Not any more. If you feel oppressed by having to recognize that there are people unlike you and they, too, have a right to seek happiness, it's on you.
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