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Old 02-13-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Being in shape has no bearing on being hit in the head with a rock. You could be an MMA fighter and get knocked out or worse with a rock to the head. Your post makes no sense.
No No, There are several exercises you can do to thicken your skull muscles
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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He was actually turned around, I guess to hurl another deadly rock.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0uqFTBclo
****ing disgusting.

based on that video I'm not buying the 'protecting themselves from deadly rocks' argument.

after they shoot, he runs. they chase him still shooting. he turns around, almost drops the rock (barely even able to hold onto it), there is a pause, and they all just shoot at him again, this time killing him.

situation did not really warrant deadly force.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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So based on what we know, does this incline towards a good shoot or a bad shoot, mustering up as much objectivity as we can?

I don't want to live in a society where cops are empowered to shoot mentally ill people throwing rocks. Authoritarians and law-and-order fetishists are cool living in a society where cops shoot anyone for any reason, but nobody else is.
We don't know yet.

I'm confused how you can write your last two sentences, I can surely envision cases where shooting the guy would be justified and that doesn't make anybody a fetishist or evil blah blah blah.

Let's face it, we have a sh*tty mental health system in the US and often these people cannot be forced to get help (my friends uncle was like this and disappeared living on the streets).

The cops often get left to deal with the aftermath, often in situations where the individual is high, drunk etc. and then we blame them for basically being the part of society that can't just turn their back and ignore the problem.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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I don't want to live in a society where cops are empowered to shoot mentally ill people throwing rocks. Authoritarians and law-and-order fetishists are cool living in a society where cops shoot anyone for any reason, but nobody else is.
Once again...stop breaking the law. Put your hands up when you are asked...and none of this happens. Simple.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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Once again...stop breaking the law. Put your hands up when you are asked...and none of this happens. Simple.
Thank you. Enough Said.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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Once again...stop breaking the law. Put your hands up when you are asked...and none of this happens. Simple.
"don't put your hands up= deserve to die."
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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"don't put your hands up= deserve to die."
You run that risk..up to you.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I think a more interesting test would be to round up all the people who insist that throwing a rock warrants a deadly force response ... CUZ A ROCK GUNNA KILL YE! ... and give them a basic physical fitness test.

Half are either going to be morbidly obese, comically uncoordinated or a paraplegic.
The other half are just hysterical self-defense fetishists who believe that all circumstances, always, everywhere, for every reason, warrant a deadly response because (insert perversion of reason here)
How about an IQ test for those who believe that physical conditioning has anything to do with getting hit with a rock?
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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The ultra left wingers might not like it but throwing rocks isn't part of free speech yet.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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The ultra left wingers might not like it but throwing rocks isn't part of free speech yet.
Gawd, but if it was, what FUN we could have.
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