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Old 11-05-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Still fired..and will remain so

As it should be
Not yet. He's appealed the recommended termination. Not every police department is like yours.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Sickening. Those jury members who wouldn't find him guilty should be ashamed of themselves. I bet they were Bible believing, don't question authority-types.
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Old 11-05-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Two mis-trials? I don't get how there was even one. SMH. Hope they charge him again and bring this POS to justice.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:03 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Not yet. He's appealed the recommended termination. Not every police department is like yours.
Small department .. Serves at the pleasure of the chief
Criminal charges don't matter.. He violated policy... At a personal hearing evidence will be presented of his use of unreasonable force... Hearing officer will uphold firing...
His own statement will be used against him
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Old 11-07-2015, 01:27 PM
 
Location: World
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The department did the right thing this time. They charged his ass. It's the stupid jury that can't get it right.
The Jury will say "Not Guilty" even if he had shot and killed Indian Man. For Jury, it is "US" vs "THEM".
Whether it is Travyon Martin or Michael Brown or O J Simpson or Rodney King, Jury will Vote on Race.
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Old 11-07-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Sickening. Those jury members who wouldn't find him guilty should be ashamed of themselves. I bet they were Bible believing, don't question authority-types.
What does belief in God and His teachings have to do with anything
I have faith, and am also very pro-LE. I have said multiple times in this thread and elsewhere this cop should have been brought up on charges for at least excessive force, if not a greater charge that would stick.
So other than stereotyping or many even bigotry against religious people, why would you make such a comment?

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Old 11-07-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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The Jury will say "Not Guilty" even if he had shot and killed Indian Man. For Jury, it is "US" vs "THEM".
Whether it is Travyon Martin or Michael Brown or O J Simpson or Rodney King, Jury will Vote on Race.
Another unbelievable comment. But lets delve into this a little more.

1)If what you say is true, do you have any doubt that juries made up of predominately minorities would do the same for defendants of their own race?

2)If our system of justice is based on racial identity/empathy, then how can any of us have faith in a juries verdict (or a judge for that matter)?

3) Whether you want to acknowledge this or not, TM & MB were horrible examples to pin civil rights protests on. Both were made out to be martyrs, which was more harmful to any cause they represented. Instead the guy who ran from the cop and was shot multiple times in the back would have been a better case to coalesce around.
So despite the false narrative that was built around the so called "gentle giant", you cannot really believe MB didn't cause his own death based on his own actions, correct?

BTW - As a white male on that jury, I'd vote to convict provided the alleged crime was consistent with the improper actions of the policeman. I wouldn't care of the victim was brown, yellow, black, red or anything in between. So if the prosecution went for attempted murder, then I would vote to acquit. However if the charge was in line with what happened, such as aggravated battery, then I'd vote to convict.
LEO's should be given greater latitude in the performance of their duties because by and large they are the good guys trying to do a nasty job of dealing with scumbag criminals intent on doing the public harm. However in this instance, there was no justification for his actions, period!

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Old 11-07-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: World
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Another unbelievable comment. But lets delve into this a little more.

1)If what you say is true, do you have any doubt that juries made up of predominately minorities would do the same for defendants of their own race?

2)If our system of justice is based on racial identity/empathy, then how can any of us have faith in a juries verdict (or a judge for that matter)?

3) Whether you want to acknowledge this or not, TM & MB were horrible examples to pin civil rights protests on. Both were made out to be martyrs, which was more harmful to any cause they represented. Instead the guy who ran from the cop and was shot multiple times in the back would have been a better case to coalesce around.
So despite the false narrative that was built around the so called "gentle giant", you cannot really believe MB didn't cause his own death based on his own actions, correct?

BTW - As a white male on that jury, I'd vote to convict provided the alleged crime was consistent with the improper actions of the policeman. I wouldn't care of the victim was brown, yellow, black, red or anything in between. So if the prosecution went for attempted murder, then I would vote to acquit. However if the charge was in line with what happened, such as aggravated battery, then I'd vote to convict.
LEO's should be given greater latitude in the performance of their duties because by and large they are the good guys trying to do a nasty job of dealing with scumbag criminals intent on doing the public harm. However in this instance, there was no justification for his actions, period!

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I agree 100% with you but it is sad truth that Jury gets influenced many times and gets aligned with their race. A 100% Minority Jury in this case would have voted against Police Officer even if he was not guilty. I was trying to bring this point.
I appreciate your judgement.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Update: Mistrial.

Apparently many people think the cops actions were acceptable. This says a lot about "American Justice."


That little old man, the jury cannot convict on that video, SMFH!
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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I think the outcome of any case depends on how the DA present their case. Remember that the DA and the police work together. You could say they are a family. If the DA wants to help the officer they are prosecuting, it's pretty easy to do. Do an incompetent job at the trial and and leave doubt in the mind of the jury.
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