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Old 02-15-2015, 08:55 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I have a gun so I can kill other people who try to kill me with their gun.
If you live in TX or certain other states, you can kill people for just wandering onto your lawn.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I have a loaded .45 in my glove box precisely because I cannot trust people not to try and kill me over an actual or perceived minor driving incident.
So, you'll be armed when you're killed.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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There are conflicting stories. One version says the shooting occurred on a second pass by the silver car.

I suspect that no one knows what happened at this point. Those involved notoriously lose perspective as they try to reconstruct the sequence. Stories also change to how the participant would like it to be.

Brother running out with gun would almost certainly justify the people in the car opening fire. Gun in hand in any remotely hostile situation would justify the other side opening fire. Even a gun in sight could well be a justification for opening fire.

The rational man may well be the death of a number of people.
It wouldn't justify them opening fire on the mom. It would only justify them opening fire to protect themselves from the armed family member. Either way, they're toast, legally.
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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I have a loaded .45 in my glove box precisely because I cannot trust people not to try and kill me over an actual or perceived minor driving incident.
Just be sure there are no 2- or 3-year-olds in the car. They can be dangerous. They know how to arm themselves.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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I live in Las Vegas where this incident took place. We are a city of only 2 million, but sadly this kind of thing happens all too often in this town.

This is the latest update on the story, from today's Las Vegas Sun.

Police seek suspect in road-rage incident that left woman dead from shot in head - Las Vegas Sun News
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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How close was I? You apparently are not familiar with rush hour in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami. There were about 25 cars at a ramp light waiting to get on the interstate. There is not a lot of room for space between cars. In addition, I figured later that if the cars had more space between them, the impacts would have been worse for each due to the momentum being greater, and the guy setting off the chain reaction was going fast and had a heavy Mercedes.
When stopped behind another vehicle, you should always leave enough space to pull out and pass without having to back up. Leaving this space protects you in three ways: it lets you pull around the vehicle in front if it stalls; it helps prevent you from being pushed into the vehicle ahead if you are hit from behind; and it reduces the risk of collision if the vehicle ahead rolls backward or backs up.

Liability is difficult to prove in the situation you described. An argument could be made that you hit the car in front of you, and then the cars behind you, hit you. In which case you would be liable for the damage to the car in front of you. More then likely the insurance companies will just divide up the liability between all the cars involved in your accident. It sounds like you were all following too closely.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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They had accomplished that and had the address.
Source?
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Just be sure there are no 2- or 3-year-olds in the car. They can be dangerous. They know how to arm themselves.
Or a trigger happy cop who fears for his life when he opens up the glove box to get is registration.
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Old 02-15-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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They pulled into the driveway, mom sent daughter into house for help where she ran in screaming that these guys were after them, brother came running out with his gun but too late, shot at the car as they were getting away after they shot his mom. This is not a new detail, the story hasn't changed, this was in the news reports from the beginning.
Never trust a news report. They really don't care if they have the facts or not.
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:41 AM
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I wonder if the shooter has a criminal background, or other reasons not to have a gun, if only such things were enforced, in spite of the protests of gun nuts who want every maniac armed.
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