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Old 02-20-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Old 02-20-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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"Beatty was detained April 27 by Rick Libero of Cumberland County Alcoholic Beverage Control Law Enforcement"

They were there to watch for people drinking in the parking lot.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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"Beatty was detained April 27 by Rick Libero of Cumberland County Alcoholic Beverage Control Law Enforcement" They were there to watch for people drinking in the parking lot.
Indeed. Something they do every single day. It's as I thought. A bunch of false outrage over nothing.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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Am I correct that this quoted from the link above "Beatty refuses to give up the can and then refuses to follow Libero's repeated commands to leave the property." is analogous to refusing a sobriety check?

NB: Also Beatty was disrespectful to the police officer. If it were you, do you really want someone to talk to you in that manner when trying to fulfill your duties? Beatty was acting like a buffoon stereotype.

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Old 02-20-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Indeed. Something they do every single day. It's as I thought. A bunch of false outrage over nothing.
Not over nothing. He was drinking ICE TEA, not alcohol.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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I hope the plain clothed policeman came out of this okay. He wasn't harmed by this encounter I hope.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Not over nothing. He was drinking ICE TEA, not alcohol.
The false outrage isn't over whether he is presumed innocent or not. I might go with that. The false outrage is that he was stopped only because he is Black. His color is the ONLY reason you defend him.

The fact of the matter he was drinking that tea in a the parking lot of a county owned liquor store where a state Alcohol Law Enforcement officer showed up who is charged with making sure that no drinking takes place in the parking lot. They ask this of anyone. Doesn't matter what color they are.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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The false outrage isn't over whether he is presumed innocent or not. I might go with that. The false outrage is that he was stopped only because he is Black. His color is the ONLY reason you defend him.

The fact of the matter he was drinking that tea in a the parking lot of a county owned liquor store where a state Alcohol Law Enforcement officer showed up who is charged with making sure that no drinking takes place in the parking lot. They ask this of anyone. Doesn't matter what color they are.
I come from Utah. It was the whitest state in the nation. I had 4 black students in my high school. In town this past winter we had a white man shot dead for asking to shovel snow for the people that lived by him.
Utah cop kills man who attacked with snow shovel

So I'm pissed he got hassled. I could care less what color he is. I'm glad he didn't get shot.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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The false outrage isn't over whether he is presumed innocent or not. I might go with that. The false outrage is that he was stopped only because he is Black. His color is the ONLY reason you defend him.

The fact of the matter he was drinking that tea in a the parking lot of a county owned liquor store where a state Alcohol Law Enforcement officer showed up who is charged with making sure that no drinking takes place in the parking lot. They ask this of anyone. Doesn't matter what color they are.

So you're not outraged that this guy's liberties were violated, you're just outraged that people perceive it to be race-related?

Do you think Beatty baited or antagonized the undercover alcohol cop?
Do you think the cop properly identified himself as a police officer?
Do you think it was proper for the DA to pursue a conviction?
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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Am I correct that this quoted from the link above "Beatty refuses to give up the can and then refuses to follow Libero's repeated commands to leave the property." is analogous to refusing a sobriety check?

NB: Also Beatty was disrespectful to the police officer. If it were you, do you really want someone to talk to you in that manner when trying to fulfill your duties? Beatty was acting like a buffoon stereotype.

Did you even watch the video?
Did you read the article? The part where the judge threw the case out because the original stop/seizure was illegal?
How about the part where the cop said he arrested Beatty for trespassing, not for disobeying a police order or resisting arrest?
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