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Old 02-20-2015, 01:04 PM
 
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Here is direct video of link posted earlier


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRfC...yer_detailpage

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Old 02-20-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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Yes...in theory....but not when an unarmed felon is able to wrestle it away from the weaker armed person thereby arming the felon bent on escape & bad intentions.
Uh huh. So what you're saying is that a man could easily subdue two females, maybe even with one arm behind his back because men are such superheros, by himself with no backup & no use of a weapon?
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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It is not size but training. I know some martial arts so I know how to put someone in an arm lock etc. Still, it can be difficult to restrain two people at once. You would have to restrain of them and put handcuffs while the other is trying to attack you. That's why grappling is ineffective against multiple opponents. You have to use strikes to disable one person at a time, and when you get a chance, use grappling to restrain them. Luckily Taekwondo -- I studied the ITF form of Taekwondo (more like kickboxing as opposed to the olympic version) in high school -- is a "striking" art; it teaches grappling but emphasizes striking.

In theory, she could have threatened both girls with her firearm. But that raises moral issues. She was showing restraint.
What a crock! Any police officer who is easily over-powered by two slap-happy teenaged girls should not be carrying a gun and a badge, much less be expected to protect the rest of us.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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Uh huh. So what you're saying is that a man could easily subdue two females, maybe even with one arm behind his back because men are such superheros, by himself with no backup & no use of a weapon?
My response to that is twofold.....1) Maybe not easily subdue but would have had much better results in controlling the initial assault and getting the first female in a controlled position which may have stopped the other getting involved and 2) two juveniles females would probably think twice before taking on a male cop vs. a female cop which they may have seen as a more equal match and a fight with odds in their favor they could win or at least come out slightly ahead.

And where did I say male cops are such superheroes???....There are many cases where male cops are overpowered by suspects but it's normally always by other males.

BTW....any cop, male or female could & should have produced a weapon in this scenario ordering both suspects top the ground. The fact that she didn't do that even after they started to leave shows her incompetence or lack of training at a minimum. At the very least, pepper spray (if carried, which normally is today) should have been used....this is a prime example of when to use it.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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Female Marine defeats male marine in grappling:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utrhy1Bmc5Y

Navy female defeats Marine Corps male in arm wrestling:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDbdhUeCyo0


In neither of these videos (esp. the arm wrestling one) does it appear that the male soldiers are going all out. In fact, the arm wrestling one reminds me of a boyfriend letting his girlfriend "win"....seems like he could be sitting there drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette while it was going on.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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This just in:

N.J. mother, daughter beat up cop at Newark airport, authorities say | NJ.com


"According to police, Katrina grabbed the officer while her daughter punched the officer multiple times. Additional officers responded to the scene to place the two women under arrest, authorities said......The officer was transported to Trinitas Hospital and was treated for trauma to her face and her knee, police said."
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Old 02-20-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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N.J. mother, daughter beat up cop at Newark airport, authorities say | NJ.com


"According to police, Katrina grabbed the officer while her daughter punched the officer multiple times. Additional officers responded to the scene to place the two women under arrest, authorities said......The officer was transported to Trinitas Hospital and was treated for trauma to her face and her knee, police said."
What!? I ghetto hood rat blocking traffic, refusing to move and punching out anyone who dared ask that they act like a civilized human being and move- I Never!!!!
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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Too bad we can't wire the police uniforms to electrify anybody who assaults them. Someone needs to work on this.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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Too bad we can't wire the police uniforms to electrify anybody who assaults them. Someone needs to work on this.
LOL....Speed freely and ignore laws when it rains....YAAAY !!!!! (j/k)
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The officer in the OP's post should have used a baton or chemical agent, at minimum. When she's fighting that one person, and the other grabs her by the neck from behind, that would easily be a deadly force situation if the first female continued fighting. 90% of the population can't fight two people at once, and if they got control of her gun, game over. That officer needs a lot more training on how to restrain someone, her use of force options, and she needs to take it more serious. It honestly looked like she was trying to save face instead of getting into the fight.

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What!? I ghetto hood rat blocking traffic, refusing to move and punching out anyone who dared ask that they act like a civilized human being and move- I Never!!!!
lol
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