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Old 02-22-2015, 04:35 PM
 
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In the court of public (Internet) opinion, she is losing badly.
There are probably many more people who support the doctor's right to make this decision than you think. Most of them will not speak up because they know they will be attacked and vilified. But just because (say) 90 out 100 posters on an Internet forum say the doctor is disgusting does not mean 90% of personal opinion is against her.

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Old 02-22-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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You have the analogy wrong unless you can prove that the doctor provided by the practice provided an inferior experience.
No, the analogy is perfect. Blacks had to sit at the back of the bus because bigotry was acceptable. Gays are the last minority that people seem to think it's okay to discriminate against. A baby was referred to someone else because a doctor refused to treat her. Why did the doctor refuse to treat her? Because her parents are gay. That's bigotry.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: East coast-New England
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I work in law enforcement. Gee...wish I could pick and choose who to help and blame it on my religion. Except....I HATE organized religion because of the judgemental, biased, hypocritical asswipes it tends to produce. Like this doctor.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: East coast-New England
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[quote=justanokie;38531022]I don't really see the big deal here.

The Dr obviously handled the situation poorly, but then we all have handled situations poorly. Doesn't mean she is a bad person.

She simply refused to take a new patient. She saw that her belief would interfere with doing her job in this instance so she passed. Drs do this all the time. Its perfectly legal. Hopefully it remains so. Would you really want to do business with someone who didn't want you as a customer? Especially if its a Dr? QUOTE



See.....I could follow her f---ked up belief about dealing with adults who simply love differently than her.

Yeah....I could follow her screwed up a$$ treating these women like they just murdered 10,000 people by setting them on fire alive (note the sarcasm) if it was THEM she refused to treat. BUT THE B---CH REFUSED TO SEE A BABY!! A BABY. The baby itself is not living the lifestyle this bible thumper hates so much. But I guess any affiliation at all condems you to hell, eh? Even if you're a helpless baby. Gosh I LOVE religious folks!!!
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Old 02-22-2015, 07:01 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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I love the first quote cited in the OP, implying that LBGT "rights" are absolute, while people practicing their religion somehow want something more. Gimmeabreak.

Beyond that, one only has to consider Obama EEOC appointee Chai Feldblum, whose opinion is that gays and the LBGT community win when there's a conflict with one's religion.

Wake up sheeple. You voted for this.
IMO the largest group of "sheeple" are those holier than thou, religious.
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Old 02-22-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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We are only hearing one side of the story. There are many reasons a Dr will refer a patient to another doctor in their practice.

1: They don't feel they are the best one to care for the patient for any reason. The baby was 6 weeks premature. That can cause problems. We do not know if the Dr referred the baby to another doctor, if they felt the other doctor was more knowledgeable for the particular problems (premature) and felt the other Dr would be a better one to handle the baby for that reason. She can beat any suit etc. by just saying she did not feel she was the one that had the experience, etc., to handle the baby. She can say she prayed for guidance of whether she should take care of the baby or turn the baby over to a better qualified physician.

We have two great doctors at our physicians practice. Both have different specialties as well as being general practitioners. They have practiced together over 20 years. One is our primary physician but my wife and I have both been turned over to the other Dr, when our primary Dr thought it was best for our care. They have both referred me to other specialists, for certain evaluations and treatment. None of us know the truth, as to why the one Dr turned the patient over to another Dr. People are reading a newspaper article, and guessing what the truth is. Most will not even consider, the first Dr may have thought that for medical reasons, she should turn the patient over to another doctor.

2: The Dr may have been so tied up with other patients in serious problems, she could not handle the patient and asked a partner in the practice to handle some of her patients. I have had this happen several times. The last time this happened, my doctor had been called into an operating room to perform emergency heart surgery. I was in for a routine exam and tests, and saw another Cardiologist instead.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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We are only hearing one side of the story. There are many reasons a Dr will refer a patient to another doctor in their practice.

1: They don't feel they are the best one to care for the patient for any reason. The baby was 6 weeks premature. That can cause problems. We do not know if the Dr referred the baby to another doctor, if they felt the other doctor was more knowledgeable for the particular problems (premature) and felt the other Dr would be a better one to handle the baby for that reason. She can beat any suit etc. by just saying she did not feel she was the one that had the experience, etc., to handle the baby. She can say she prayed for guidance of whether she should take care of the baby or turn the baby over to a better qualified physician.

We have two great doctors at our physicians practice. Both have different specialties as well as being general practitioners. They have practiced together over 20 years. One is our primary physician but my wife and I have both been turned over to the other Dr, when our primary Dr thought it was best for our care. They have both referred me to other specialists, for certain evaluations and treatment. None of us know the truth, as to why the one Dr turned the patient over to another Dr. People are reading a newspaper article, and guessing what the truth is. Most will not even consider, the first Dr may have thought that for medical reasons, she should turn the patient over to another doctor.

2: The Dr may have been so tied up with other patients in serious problems, she could not handle the patient and asked a partner in the practice to handle some of her patients. I have had this happen several times. The last time this happened, my doctor had been called into an operating room to perform emergency heart surgery. I was in for a routine exam and tests, and saw another Cardiologist instead.
1. Might have worked IF she had actually referred them to another doctor instead on just not showing up and telling the doctor that she prayed on it and decided that she could not treat the baby of homosexuals and then sent a letter to the couple saying the same thing.

2. Might have worked IF she did not stay home to avoid even seeing the couple and therefore didn't see any of her patients that day. Plus that whole letter that she sent to the couple telling them that she would not treat their baby since they are homosexuals.
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Princeton
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Man, the Doctor should just quit her practice, she's useless and failed her duties, pure and simple. The word here people, is someone in a Leadership position "failed" the People, do you turn away from running into a burning building with people and children inside because gays own the house? do you turn away from a innocent Iraqi child busted up because your a Soldier? do you throw a case file away during a homicide investigation because the child has two mothers? this is exactly why you never mix politics and religion in a Leadership position because it always makes for bad beer. You either are for the people (everyone) or your not. Do your job.
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar & Coronado, CA
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No, the analogy is perfect. Blacks had to sit at the back of the bus because bigotry was acceptable. Gays are the last minority that people seem to think it's okay to discriminate against. A baby was referred to someone else because a doctor refused to treat her. Why did the doctor refuse to treat her? Because her parents are gay. That's bigotry.
If you think that gays are the last minority people seem to think it's okay to discriminate against than you are not fat, a little person, an evangelical Christian, a conservative student on a college campus, an elderly person or any number of other minority groups that regularly face discrimination.

Look at the hate spewed against this doctor in this thread for holding a view that was the accepted norm as recent as 20 years ago by people of all political stripes. Even the current president held discriminatory views of gays as recently as three years ago.

The doctor not 'refuse to treat', the doctor declined to take the baby on as a patient which is well within her rights whatever the reason.
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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I do not understand how this is legal, for a doctor to refuse to treat a patient for this reason, when a bakery business was sued for refusing to bake a lesbian couple a cake? How is it legally different?
The bakery was sued for violation of an Oregon state law. This doctor is not in Oregon.
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