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Old 02-24-2015, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Your cousin works for idiots. I've been in retail a long time and I can tell you shoplifters come in all colors, ages, backgrounds, etc. We are told to look for certain behaviors, and I don't care what you look like, if you exhibit those behaviors you will be watched.
My cousin would agree with you there. He works for an agency who hires him out. Sometimes he works at malls when extra help is needed and somtimes his company hires him out for private parties. He doesn't follow the profiling idea. He does what you have described, he looks for behaviors. He's been doing this for a long time so he knows what he's doing and ignores his bosses. When he's on the job, they don't know how he evaluates who he sees.

I think some people here are missing the point of the article. The people who were accused of shoplifting it would appear were being profiled and were accused on that basis and not on any kind of hard evidence. Just because they looked a certain way they were targeted. It isn't a case of "I'm not guilty so I don't have to worry." The people in this article were not proven to be guilty either but they still got hassled.

Reading the comment section, this also happened to people who wore tattoos and beards.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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This is pretty simple. If you are stopped (not physically detained), and you in fact didn't steal anything, tell them that no, you didn't steel anything, bid them good day, and continue on your way. If they physically detain you after that, they will pay. If they don't physically detain you, you haven't been humiliated, assaulted, unlawfully detained, or anything else. They just asked you questions. You can choose not to answer any of their questions if you want. Just leave. Get over it. Calling "your lawyer" will do nothing for you.

And this advice is applicable to everyone, whatever race they may be.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:41 PM
 
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To my surprise, they said they're more afraid of black women because they think we lash out of nowhere.
As a mild-mannered black female, that's interesting for a LOT of reasons. I and friends have been in situations where folks seem almost DISAPPOINTED that we don't start neck-rolling and hollering.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:41 PM
 
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Sounds more like "shop lifting" while Black. I'm thinking that particular legal theory isn't going to go far. LOL
What a pleasant surprise to see you here as the first response. Are those Black & White prescription glasses you purchased comfy?
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:13 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Pardon the pun but detaining a shoplifter is not as black and white as some of you seem to think it is.
Some of the 'how dare they suspect me, they need to find the real criminals' statements here are ridiculous.That is not a reason for people to jump to the conclusion that they were profiled based on race or anything else.
There is no flashing arrow above somebodies head that points and says 'this is the person you want right here' Sometimes people who aren't shoplifting get followed because they DO behave in other ways that arouse suspicion. The real criminals look just like you do, whether you are, black, white, brown, young or old, so it's just as stupid to automatically assume that if you are suspected the reason is your skin color.

WT? are you doing reading stormfront, do you really think that is indicative of the way most white americans think or feel?
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Old 02-25-2015, 12:12 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I thought it was White teen girls who were the prime shoplifters, and also older White women. I thought that was pretty well-known.
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Old 02-25-2015, 05:05 AM
 
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What a pleasant surprise to see you here as the first response. Are those Black & White prescription glasses you purchased comfy?
Beyond the hearty greetings and attempt at levity, I suppose you don't really care to address the actual message. That certainly is no surprise.
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Old 02-25-2015, 05:23 AM
 
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sound like these are more like the lawyer chasing ambulance than the fact that the security are actually doing their jobs, if you want to stop being profiled, it easy, quit doing the crime
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:39 AM
 
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sound like these are more like the lawyer chasing ambulance than the fact that the security are actually doing their jobs, if you want to stop being profiled, it easy, quit doing the crime
Quit doing the crime? WHAT crime? Walking into a store and shopping?
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:13 AM
 
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sound like these are more like the lawyer chasing ambulance than the fact that the security are actually doing their jobs, if you want to stop being profiled, it easy, quit doing the crime
Hmm, since White males disproportionately commit mass killings at schools & malls should we follow them around aiming guns at them? Or how about we stop using the actions of a few like they somehow represent the entire race.


Go ahead, bring up the "but oh, Blacks are 13%..." crap to "counter" my argument.
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