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Old 02-27-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Surprised? no, care, yes. It's another reminder of how ridiculous they are.

They are animals, filth and scum. They murder people in horrible ways, you expect them to respect artifacts?

It's terrible that they would plunder ancient, historic relics.
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Old 02-27-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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They destroyed priceless ancient Mesopotamian/Assyrian artifact. They pretty much destroyed over half of Mesopotamian history. Very sad and disgusting.

Glad some of statues and such were already taken to Europe and North America.

Yeah I agree, launch a mission to rescue relics and store them in a museum. ISIS will most likely sell them on the black market and use the money for funding.

Good think Turkey took back the Tomb of Suleyman in Syria this past week.
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Old 02-27-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Is anyone really surprised? Who cares.

Who cares?!? A lot of us who are interested either in art, or cultural artifacts in general, care very much. No one's cultural history should be destroyed. And it's emblematic of how they're destroying all of what people think of as the pleasures of life. Weren't you aware of the outrage across the world when the Taliban destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas?
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Old 02-27-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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Yeah, a lot looked like plaster of paris with no age Patina.
They confirmed they were made of plaster. They said the iron bars were visible during the video.

Did ISIS Smash Fake Sculptures in Mosul? Experts say Many of Them Were Replicas - artnet News

Instead of England, the originals were kept in Baghdad.
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Old 02-27-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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I mean who cares, as in, various groups of humans have been destroying ancient artifacts since the dawn of time, this is not a particulary barbaric or unusual behavior. The egyptians, The greeks, The romans, The goths, the huns, The arabs, The Ottomans, the Nazis and yes even the, the United States of America have all done it and on a grander scale than ISIS. What do you think happened in musuems when US forces came into Iraq? They (the iraqis) looted them and we had nothing to do with the destruction of rare and valuable artifacts? riiigghhtttt. Not saying I'm an ISIS fan, just saying killing thousands of people was met with mostly indifference by western scholars, but now, the academic community actually cares about ISIS because they dare destroy artifacts in a museum.


There is nothing particularly terrible or unusual about destroying historic artifacts.
It's supposed that we "evolved" from ancient times, at least in some regards.
And no, those killings weren't met with "mostly indifference", at least in Europe.
You can criticise the inaction of world governments, but to say that those killings have been met with "mostly indifference" is completely false.
Yes, we could all agree that media exploited the events, that #jesuischarlies, kobane and company were also manipulated by the media, but it's a blatant lie to minimise this abhorrent act with the excuse that ISIS has done worse things.
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Old 02-27-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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They want everything of the 10th century but they all drive around in a 2015 Toyota Tundra. Where are they getting all those new trucks anyway?
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Old 02-27-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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They confirmed they were made of plaster. They said the iron bars were visible during the video.

Did ISIS Smash Fake Sculptures in Mosul? Experts say Many of Them Were Replicas - artnet News

Instead of England, the originals were kept in Baghdad.
Wishful thinking, they are confirming most of the items were not fakes.
New IS Video Shows Militants Smashing Ancient Iraq Artifacts - ABC News
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Old 02-27-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Saw this on the national news this morning. Isn't that wonderful (sarcasm). The Muslim spokesman in the broadcast said that ancient civilizations used to worship those statues instead of worshipping Allah. I guess that's probably one of the main reasons they are destroying them. Kind of reminds me what modern day atheists and the like are trying to do with symbols of Christianity in America and how they are trying to purge the public square of all religious symbols through their endless litigation. "Christians use these symbols to worship God instead of worshipping the goddess of reason".
Are you kidding me? You are comparing atheists who don't want religion shoved down their children's throats in schools, as per our constitution, which was written by a bunch of guys who FOUNDED this country on the premise that no one would have to adhere to any sort of religious faith and certainly wouldn't have it dictated to them as their former country did- you are comparing that to ISIS? Are you KIDDING me? Some guy not wanting to see the Ten Commandments in a court room is a far far cry from destroying relics of ancient civilizations, raping and pillaging. Your statement is an insult to ANYONE who has ever suffered under a totalitarian or religious regime. Its like Paris Hilton saying "god, my life is so TOUGH". I mean, seriously. I am not even an atheist but your statement is totally beyond the pale.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I mean who cares, as in, various groups of humans have been destroying ancient artifacts since the dawn of time, this is not a particulary barbaric or unusual behavior. The egyptians, The greeks, The romans, The goths, the huns, The arabs, The Ottomans, the Nazis and yes even the, the United States of America have all done it and on a grander scale than ISIS. What do you think happened in musuems when US forces came into Iraq? They (the iraqis) looted them and we had nothing to do with the destruction of rare and valuable artifacts? riiigghhtttt. Not saying I'm an ISIS fan, just saying killing thousands of people was met with mostly indifference by western scholars, but now, the academic community actually cares about ISIS because they dare destroy artifacts in a museum.


There is nothing particularly terrible or unusual about destroying historic artifacts.
Thanks for pointing out we are no better than ISIS and never have been. Made my day.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Southwest Minneapolis
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All these ISIS guys need is economic opportunity, health insurance and a hug. Then they will be peaceful like the other 99.9% of Muslims.

This is the safest time in history to be an ancient artifact.
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