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Old 03-01-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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http://rt.com/politics/234375-moscow-anti-maidan-demo/

This is a link to Anti-Maidan Protest in Moscow.

It did not grab CNN headlines for some reason.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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http://rt.com/politics/234375-moscow-anti-maidan-demo/

This is a link to Anti-Maidan Protest in Moscow.

It did not grab CNN headlines for some reason.
This Anti-Maidan has been confirmed by Western media, only with a different spin. This Anti-Maidan implies that Russians care about Ukraine and it's future.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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RT is saying that it was kill for hire. Who ordered the killing is unknown. RT is also warning people the killing could be a provocation to destabilize Russia.

Not clear what Putin would gain by ordering the murder.

Can we agree that if Nemtsev did not criticize Putin, this murder would not be on front pages of western media ?
What evidence has RT provided that would indicate it was a kill for hire? It *could* be a Kremlin hit meant to give the appearance of a CIA hit meant to destabilize Russia; A double false flag. It *could* also be, as I suspect, an overzealous nationalist taken with the perverse propaganda that any opposition to Putin's presidency is an affront to Russia. It *could* be anything.

Nemtsov was a prominent politician under Yeltsin who was being considered as his successor before the economic crises. In addition, the opposition party Nemtsov founded at one time held 10% of the seats in parliament and he was a very vocal and prominent opponent of the current Russian government. Most importantly though, he claimed to be working on a report proving Russia's involvement in the Ukraine crises.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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What evidence has RT provided that would indicate it was a kill for hire? It *could* be a Kremlin hit meant to give the appearance of a CIA hit meant to destabilize Russia; A double false flag. It *could* also be, as I suspect, an overzealous nationalist taken with the perverse propaganda that any opposition to Putin's presidency is an affront to Russia. It *could* be anything.

Nemtsov was a prominent politician under Yeltsin who was being considered as his successor before the economic crises. In addition, the opposition party Nemtsov founded at one time held 10% of the seats in parliament and he was a very vocal and prominent opponent of the current Russian government. Most importantly though, he claimed to be working on a report proving Russia's involvement in the Ukraine crises.
If you abandon the double standard that CNN tells you to adopt, you have just used "Could" a number of times in your statement. I am guessing you agree that we do not know who killed him.

Point is that I am following Russia on the news and the way I see it, this guys murder hurts Putin more then this guy's criticism.

Let us test my theory let's assume Putin ordered the killing of a guy that is harmless to Putin, that would mean that Putin is growing Stalin level paranoid. Does Putin seem that way to me in his policies or as he appears in the news ? No he does not.

The 1 million dollar question is: If this guy was not favored by the west for criticism of Putin, would his murder make headline news in US?
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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We should take careful note of the fact that people who invest extreme pride in their homeland to the extent of demonizing anything that is outside their zone often fall prey to leaders who take extreme advantage of the populace and steal from them to the benefit of a very few.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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It was reported on ABC News that Putin was going to personally take charge of the investigation. I have no doubt that he will do exactly that. But I wouldn't count on anything resembling the truth to come out of it.
It was another enemy of the state who shot him no doubt. I trust Putin to get to the bottom of it
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:50 AM
 
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It was another enemy of the state who shot him no doubt. I trust Putin to get to the bottom of it
Would you rather trust Obama to do as he says? LOL

The USA MSM is pulling off a huge double standard in the way the report the deeds of each.
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Old 03-02-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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Brian Williams, the forefront of honest MSM that most Americans listen to without question, was probably at the scene when it happened, so we should all wait for his report to get the "facts".
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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Brian Williams, the forefront of honest MSM that most Americans listen to without question, was probably at the scene when it happened, so we should all wait for his report to get the "facts".
No, I think we should send Geraldo Rivera. Now there's a brave reporter.
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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No... it's not moral relativism. It's very simple.
Yes, it's very simple: you excuse Putin's authoritarian war-mongering on the basis that the US does the same and worse. Which is transparently false, but then ideologues usually are.

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That doesn't mean Putin gets a blank check to do whatever he wants.
And yet, thanks to fifth-columnists like you in the US, Europe, and elsewhere, that's exactly what he thinks he's entitled to now.

Who will stop him?
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