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Old 03-02-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Lol "Suspect is on the run, theyre a tall male who has a very striking tan...."
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Well, let's take this to it's logical conclusion and ban gender descriptions too! All suspects are now equal. "someone committed a crime. Be on the look out for them!"
What's wrong with that? Then the cops claim that "We aren't ruling anyone out as a suspect" would actually make sense instead of sounding as moronic as it is I watch a lot of true crime shows. I enjoy watching the different aspects of how the crime is discovered, the forensics behind it, the prosecution, and the resolution of it, even if justice really isn't served.

There is one aspect about these shows I really hate and that is the way the police make it sound like EVERYONE they interview is guilty. If they can't remember anything about what they were doing at the time of the crime, they're automatically guilty because they're lying. If they remember everything at the time of the crime very well, they're guilty because they've rehearsed their alibi. If they don't have an alibi, they're guilty because they don't have one (as if people NEVER stay at home by themselves watching TV or sleeping). If their gf is their alibi, they're also guilty because she's covering for him. If they refuse a polygraph, they're guilty because why would they refuse unless they're hiding something? Etc, etc. . .
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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Thank God I grew up when………….

We Pledged Allegiance to the Flag each morning in school, addressed all adults as either Mr. or Mrs., played outside and got dirty and didn’t cry about it, caught frogs and teased the girls with them, missed lunch playing all day but better get my azz home for dinner with the family, rummaged through the empty lot to find a bottle to get the two cent deposit for two pieces of Bazooka Bubble gum, one for you and one for your close friend, drove up to the Bronx to visit Grandma and Grampa on Sundays and loved playing on the street with the other kids (and when they turned on the fire hydrant in the summer that was a thrill!)

And the list goes on and on while all you left wing liberal/socialist feel so sorry for being a mean racist American.


Good luck younger socialist generation because you’re screwed!

They turned the fire hydrants on? Wastes water so it's environmentally unsound. Also someone might slip and hurt himself. No! Definitely no fire hydrant fun.

I'm from MN and have read commentary from local Black people saying that omitting the race of the perp leaves them clueless also about who to watch out for. Guess nobody thought about that. One person wrote that sometimes it's a White person and he'd appreciate that information being known also so that people didn't think it was always a Black person. It isn't always a Black person.

Too bad we even have to think this way anymore at all - like it's a social war over who has the most "bad guys" Anyone smart enough to go to the U must be smart enough to not want criminals of any color hanging out there.

The elephant in the living room here for those who don't know the demographics in that area is that much of the U is situated where our newest members of MN society live. They are refugees, and being such, it is considered rude to notice if they are causing social problems. And some of them are. That's why this is such a big deal right now.

Haven't read entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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Six Two Six, Seven Six, go ahead Seven Six, I am responding to a call on a possible Ten Eight, I am in immediate pursuit of a suspected on a possible Ten Eight call, suspect last seen as a foot mobile heading north on Washington, maybe armed and dangerous, requesting immediate assistance near Washington and Arena, copy Six Two Six? go ahead Six Two Six, what's the description on possible suspect, Seven Six, the suspect seems to be is a young ? carrying burglary tools wearing a hoodie or sweatshirt, what color Seven Six ? copy Six Two Six, I don't know? Six Two Six, Seven Six, go ahead Six Two Six, what other description of the suspect do you have? I don't know, Six Two Six, copy? Seven Six, what other description can you give about the suspect? Seven Six, I don't know if the suspect is male or female? I don't know if the suspect is black or white, or what the possible age of the suspect is ? only that "some" suspect is heading north on Washington, copy Six Two Six? copy Six Two Six?
You didn't read the article or understand what it said either. If you have other identifying info such as he was young and wearing a red hoodie then you CAN say race too. You just can't say you didn't see him enough to tell height, what he was wearing or anything, but oh, pretty sure he was black.
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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Thank God I grew up when.

We Pledged Allegiance to the Flag each morning in school, addressed all adults as either Mr. or Mrs., played outside and got dirty and didnt cry about it, caught frogs and teased the girls with them, missed lunch playing all day but better get my azz home for dinner with the family, rummaged through the empty lot to find a bottle to get the two cent deposit for two pieces of Bazooka Bubble gum, one for you and one for your close friend, drove up to the Bronx to visit Grandma and Grampa on Sundays and loved playing on the street with the other kids (and when they turned on the fire hydrant in the summer that was a thrill!)

And the list goes on and on while all you left wing liberal/socialist feel so sorry for being a mean racist American.


Good luck younger socialist generation because youre screwed!
Ditto!!
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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They turned the fire hydrants on? Wastes water so it's environmentally unsound. Also someone might slip and hurt himself. No! Definitely no fire hydrant fun.

I'm from MN and have read commentary from local Black people saying that omitting the race of the perp leaves them clueless also about who to watch out for. Guess nobody thought about that. One person wrote that sometimes it's a White person and he'd appreciate that information being known also so that people didn't think it was always a Black person. It isn't always a Black person.

Too bad we even have to think this way anymore at all - like it's a social war over who has the most "bad guys" Anyone smart enough to go to the U must be smart enough to not want criminals of any color hanging out there.

The elephant in the living room here for those who don't know the demographics in that area is that much of the U is situated where our newest members of MN society live. They are refugees, and being such, it is considered rude to notice if they are causing social problems. And some of them are. That's why this is such a big deal right now.

Haven't read entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.
The West Bank portion of the campus is adjacent to an area sometimes referred to as "Little Mogadishu" due to the large concentration of Somali immigrants. I don't know of anyone who considers it to be rude to notice when Somalis cause "social problems", and there are some members of all demographic groups who are responsible for such problems.

As far as I know, Somalis have played little or no role in this particular controversy.
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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Why don't they just report skin color? That's information and avoids the racial thing where the say it's socially determined or something. If the perp is black or if he's white, that's got to help the cops find him.
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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If "race only" descriptions are uncommon, I can't imagine the elimination of such descriptions to be very significant. Again, I think it's probably best to wait for a crime alert to be issued before commenting on how that alert may be structured.
"We recently reviewed suspect descriptions provided by victims and witnesses in 51 different crimes that resulted in Crime Alerts since 2012. About 30 percent of those provide a limited suspect description. In those cases, there is insufficient information to reasonably assess if a person presents a danger and therefore would not be used. At the same time, more than two thirds of those descriptions include specific information that could reasonably inform the community about an ongoing risk."

University of Minnesota : Safe U : Crime Alert Message

Given those numbers, roughly 15 Crime Alerts would not have been issued since 2012.

imo, the value of those limited alerts outweighs the potential negative stereotyping of black men or the fear they'd be put under.

Though catching the suspect is important, the primary reason for the alerts is for people on campus to take measures for their personal safety. If 'white male' is the extent of the ID, so be it. That in itself is useful, and if all white males are insulted if I cross the street, lock my door, or move to a desk further away in the library, too bad.
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Thank God I grew up when………….

We Pledged Allegiance to the Flag each morning in school, addressed all adults as either Mr. or Mrs., played outside and got dirty and didn’t cry about it, caught frogs and teased the girls with them, missed lunch playing all day but better get my azz home for dinner with the family, rummaged through the empty lot to find a bottle to get the two cent deposit for two pieces of Bazooka Bubble gum, one for you and one for your close friend, drove up to the Bronx to visit Grandma and Grampa on Sundays and loved playing on the street with the other kids (and when they turned on the fire hydrant in the summer that was a thrill!)

And the list goes on and on while all you left wing liberal/socialist feel so sorry for being a mean racist American.


Good luck younger socialist generation because you’re screwed!
This sounds a lot like my childhood except I think I am a bit younger since Bazooka bubblegum was a nickel when I was a kid, but what the hell does any of this have to do with the topic?

Sample analogies:

Quote: Palestinian attacks in Israel take several lives. Retaliatory attacks devastate apartment block in Gaza.

Response. When I was a kid comic books cost 10 cents and I used little bits of grandma's bread dough to catch bass in the farmer's pond! Try that in your liberal/socialist "utopia"!

Quote: Mass shooting in Nebraska takes five lives. Shooter is still on the loose.

Response: Remember when pies tasted good? None of this cheap socialist pie made with organic blueberries! Also, you could slap a girl on the rump without a bunch of liberal commies getting up your a**!
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Crime Alerts may unintentionally reinforce racist stereotypes of Black men, and other people of color, as criminals and threats.

So it sounds like you can do it if they are white, but NOT if they are "a person of color".

Armed robbery suspect description: white male, black hoodie, wearing a grey mask, 6'4", slim build, possibly carrying brown bag."

"Armed robbery suspect description: black male."

How about "Armed robbery suspect description: white male". Does that cut it?

Personally I would rather have their sex and skin color to go on than nothing at all......
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