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Old 03-03-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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So now that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made his speech, what do you think about what he stated in relation to Iran?

For those of you that need to watch it, it starts at around 1:07 in the following video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhqT1oT5xn0
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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What a condescending, grandstanding asshat. He thinks America is stupid but still wants us to be his personal army. He wants wars but he wants Americans' lives on the line, not Israeli lives. We can't keep letting a chickenhawk dictate American policy. If Israel wants a preemptive war they need to fight it themselves.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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What Netanyahu says to congress is irrelevant. What it does prove, very loudly, is that Obama is a very weak and discredited President who doesn't have the support of his people. That was the real point. A point that will not be brought to you by the MSM in the USA.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Benjamin Netanyahu, in 2003, going on about how Saddam Hussein absolutely beyond any doubt had an active nuclear weapons program (he was completely wrong) and about how invading Iraq will do so much to improve things:
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If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region.


Could he have possible been more wrong?

He went on - again, back in 2003 - about how he supported invading Iraq despite the fact that he had no doubt that in its death throes Iraq would attack Israel with missiles armed with biological and chemical weapons. Again, he was completely wrong. No missiles were fired at Israel, and no biological or chemical weapons could have been used in any case because Iraq did not have them in 2003. This isn't because Saddam Hussein was a nice guy, of course, but because - unlike with his 1991 attacks on Israel in an effort to break the Desert Storm coalition - there simply was no strategic reasons to throw Scuds at Israel in 2003.

Let’s All, For a Moment, Remember Bibi’s Wisdom on Iraq 10 Years Ago « LobeLog

The man has a history, and it shows him to be demonstrably wrong over and over.

He's giving this speech to try and get himself reelected. He was invited to give the speech because John Boehner thinks undermining the foreign policy of the United States is worth it as long as he sees a chance to score some political points in the process. Those are the only two reasons Netanyahu is giving this speech.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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What a condescending, grandstanding asshat. He thinks America is stupid but still wants us to be his personal army. He wants wars but he wants Americans' lives on the line, not Israeli lives. We can't keep letting a chickenhawk dictate American policy. If Israel wants a preemptive war they need to fight it themselves.
What speech did you watch? That's not what he said at all!
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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I also remember them saying Iraq was moving chemical weapons to Syria by big rigs and have photos of the rigs. Also remember Syria using chemical weapons on it's own people not too long ago.

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What a condescending, grandstanding asshat. He thinks America is stupid but still wants us to be his personal army. He wants wars but he wants Americans' lives on the line, not Israeli lives. We can't keep letting a chickenhawk dictate American policy. If Israel wants a preemptive war they need to fight it themselves.
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Benjamin Netanyahu, in 2003, going on about how Saddam Hussein absolutely beyond any doubt had an active nuclear weapons program (he was completely wrong) and about how invading Iraq will do so much to improve things:




Could he have possible been more wrong?

He went on - again, back in 2003 - about how he supported invading Iraq despite the fact that he had no doubt that in its death throes Iraq would attack Israel with missiles armed with biological and chemical weapons. Again, he was completely wrong. No missiles were fired at Israel, and no biological or chemical weapons could have been used in any case because Iraq did not have them in 2003. This isn't because Saddam Hussein was a nice guy, of course, but because - unlike with his 1991 attacks on Israel in an effort to break the Desert Storm coalition - there simply was no strategic reasons to throw Scuds at Israel in 2003.

Let’s All, For a Moment, Remember Bibi’s Wisdom on Iraq 10 Years Ago « LobeLog

The man has a history, and it shows him to be demonstrably wrong over and over.

He's giving this speech to try and get himself reelected. He was invited to give the speech because John Boehner thinks undermining the foreign policy of the United States is worth it as long as he sees a chance to score some political points in the process. Those are the only two reasons Netanyahu is giving this speech.
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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"So now that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made his speech, what do you think about what he stated in relation to Iran?"

I thought it was a great speech. I was also glad to see both sides of the aisle give him standing O's. It made this past week of hand wringing seem rather silly. I agree that Iran shouldn't have the bomb. If Israel chooses to stop them all by their lonesome, so be it. Thanks for posting the link, I think it's wise for folks to listen to the primary source and not the pundits.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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What a condescending, grandstanding asshat. He thinks America is stupid but still wants us to be his personal army. He wants wars but he wants Americans' lives on the line, not Israeli lives. We can't keep letting a chickenhawk dictate American policy. If Israel wants a preemptive war they need to fight it themselves.
Yours is the first & only reply I have read thus far. Based on your view, do you believe our countries leader/s that we genuinely want to keep Iran from getting a nuclear bomb?
If you do, and knowing we are the ones in negotiations with Iran, do you honestly feel our strategy will work (both short & long term) and we are dealing with an honest partner in this arena?

I ask because no matter how you feel about the US playing policeman of the world, we are the only ones that have a credible threat of destroying Iran's nuclear ambitions. I say this knowing that Israel could attack Iran, but aside from them possibly being successful on that front, it would inflame the entire Muslim world.

As to the overall threads question, I have mixed thoughts on the issue. I believe those who boycotted are being petulant for political reasons, as the PM of our best allies in the region is not some monster people should refuse to listen to.
Still "Bibi" has his own agenda/s, and though many are legit, some might not be in our best interest.

Personally I'd like to see a coalition of Muslim countries give Iran a flat out no on developing nukes. I am sure places like Jordan, Turkey & Saudi Arabia do not want Iran to develop them. We will have to be involved, but there should be more done by the regional players.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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What a condescending, grandstanding asshat. He thinks America is stupid but still wants us to be his personal army. He wants wars but he wants Americans' lives on the line, not Israeli lives. We can't keep letting a chickenhawk dictate American policy. If Israel wants a preemptive war they need to fight it themselves.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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There is no threat of Iran getting the bomb under the agreement for which they're negotiating. This is hyperbole and bombast from people like Bibi who, I might add, claims that Iran is using these negotiations to get the bomb despite the fact that Mossad AND the CIA both claim it's not true. What theyre actually negotiating for, if you don't listen to David Sanger and David Albright and Max Boot and just read the drafts that have made it out, or the guys at IPS News or MintPress who are all pretty good on this issue, is to install EXTRA safeguards in return for relief of SOME sanctions. Part of this, for instance, is to permanently station IAEA inspectors at the most controversial nuclear sites; Arak, Tabriz, etc. This would be like owning a gun shop and having an ATF agent stationed there. I hate Obama probably more than any of the Bibi lovers on here whp assume (for whatever reason) that he's not lying, but, really, this is a solid deal.
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