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Old 03-04-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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I think perhaps there is more to the story. I doubt they just magically showed up to start with.It is a fairly serious crimes to provide alcohol to minors at your house or elsewhere. There is no not go to jail zone on that.
Must be. After all, it's inconceivable that LEOs would abuse a law-abiding citizen. I mean, c'mon! Crazy-talk!

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Wait, why do you hope that? Because if he wins, then we all lose. Because WE pay. And you just pointed out that THEY are the problem. The people who are the problem need to pay...not us. We had nothing to do with it.

But its all good...because in the revolution the payback is going to come out of their hides.
We lose when law enforcement abuses its authority.

We are collectively responsible for the abuses of agents of the state.

We all win when the authority that abuses its power is given incentive to stop such egregious behavior.
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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If parking were the issue (did the police ever really say?) a good Officer would have simply asked the homeowner to have his guests move their cars to a more appropriate area. How they got to tasing him is just mind-blowing.

My father in law was a police officer, eventually rising to a pretty high rank on Long Island before retiring. He has said many times that in his opinion, being a good cop is as much about what you don't do than what you do. Essentially, good judgment and being chill with people can almost always work better than being gung ho and rolling in. Show your authority not by imposing it, but by using your brain.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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My father in law was a police officer, eventually rising to a pretty high rank on Long Island before retiring. He has said many times that in his opinion, being a good cop is as much about what you don't do than what you do. Essentially, good judgment and being chill with people can almost always work better than being gung ho and rolling in. Show your authority not by imposing it, but by using your brain.

I'm waiting for the "cops can do no wrong" crowd to show up and blindly defend this cop with their usual "well if you haven't done anything wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" rhetoric! I am not a cop hater, but I do despise cops that abuse their authority, and use Gestapo like tactics such as this! We're hearing more and more stories about this type of stuff happening! I have an ex-marine buddy who has had minor run-ins with the cops, and he says they hate it when you know the law, and your rights better than they do.


On a side note another poster on this thread alluded to the fact that the cops used the excuse to ask to enter see if there was underage drinking going on an possibly as an excuse to find marijuana which would be a jack pot! Now, given the huge push towards and the growing support for legalization, do you think that maybe the cops are trying to get their last hoorah in hoping to find an easy payday before the whole house of cards that is prohibition comes crashing down? It seems like lately here in my state we're hearing more busts for cannabis when things like meth and heroin are becoming a much bigger issue. I mean, yes there are many cops that support legalizing cannabis, but there are also quite a few that oppose it, because shaking down those who consume, possess, grow or distribute it is an easy pay day for them, and fear that legalization will hurt their wallets.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I pity the people of the USA. I don't want to read another post extolling the "Freedom" enjoyed by the citizens of the country.
What freedoms you do have left are increasingly under attack by out of control agents of the State at all levels. Federal, State and Local governments act as if the bill of rights does not exist. Why are the people so complacent about this? It should be the premier issue of the day. Millions should be demonstrating and organizing to bring pressure to bear against this attack on freedom.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Anchored in Phoenix
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The right to privacy in his own home was violated. I would not comply if I was the home owner. There needs to be a warrant first. No matter what the police saw when he opened the door.

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Electrical engineer tased at his housewarming party sues Madison County deputies | AL.com

This guy was tased because police came to his house (still don't know why) and he wouldn't let them in when they asked if they could enter. Then they said they wanted to make sure no underage drinkers were inside because they saw alcohol for the brief few seconds he opened the door to step out. What?
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Do you know why this kind of crap very rarely happens here in Canada? When it does happen the police department involved ends up paying millions of dollars defending it's self in court and paying the damages awarded if found guilty.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Why were the police there? I'd like to know.

I'd also like to know why they thought they could enter someone's residence without a reason.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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I pity the people of the USA. I don't want to read another post extolling the "Freedom" enjoyed by the citizens of the country.
What freedoms you do have left are increasingly under attack by out of control agents of the State at all levels. Federal, State and Local governments act as if the bill of rights does not exist. Why are the people so complacent about this? It should be the premier issue of the day. Millions should be demonstrating and organizing to bring pressure to bear against this attack on freedom.
It's one hell of a battle trust me. And some of us are.


Stand up, they'll hit your wallet, slander you, blackball you, etc.





What some people don't know is there is a full fledged Revolution taking place. Mostly led by the younger generation. There are more Independents in 44 states than Republicans or Democrats. The time for change is now.




Enough is enough.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Why were the police there? I'd like to know.

I'd also like to know why they thought they could enter someone's residence without a reason.

I read somewhere that the neighbor called in the cops because cars were blocking their driveways or excessive noise ... but that's also in dispute. I thought I also read that the cop agreed that he did not tell the victim why/what the police was there to investigate.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Electrical engineer tased at his housewarming party sues Madison County deputies | AL.com

This guy was tased because police came to his house (still don't know why) and he wouldn't let them in when they asked if they could enter. Then they said they wanted to make sure no underage drinkers were inside because they saw alcohol for the brief few seconds he opened the door to step out. What?
Context, Context, Context...

This happens every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday around most college campuses. I know it did when I was in college. Still, I think it was out of line then and I think it is out of line now.
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