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Old 04-05-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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She has every right to put on lip balm, but for Pete's sake just pull over and do what you need to do without endangering the rest of us!

Anybody behind the wheel of a 2 ton metal projectile needs to focus their attention on driving. Not eating, yakking on a cell phone or putting on makeup. It is incredibly selfish to risk the lives of others for your personal convenience.

How many cars weigh 2 tons these days? Does yours?
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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This article offers perspective from the driver only, and not the police officer. She said she was putting lip balm at a red light. How true is this statement? Was she stopped completely or was she in the process of stopping? Was she looking forward one hand on the wheel while applying the balm, or was she looking intently for 10 seconds at the rearview mirror? Was she lying about the lip balm, and it was truly lip stick?

Plus (as others in this thread have mentioned) this is the same driver that had expired registration and no proof of insurance, so its hard for me to give her the benefit of the doubt. Heck, i could make shallow argument that if she is not responsible enough to obtain a registration AND insurance, how responsible of a driver is she actuallly on the road?
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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This article offers perspective from the driver only, and not the police officer. She said she was putting lip balm at a red light. How true is this statement? Was she stopped completely or was she in the process of stopping? Was she looking forward one hand on the wheel while applying the balm, or was she looking intently for 10 seconds at the rearview mirror? Was she lying about the lip balm, and it was truly lip stick?

Plus (as others in this thread have mentioned) this is the same driver that had expired registration and no proof of insurance, so its hard for me to give her the benefit of the doubt. Heck, i could make shallow argument that if she is not responsible enough to obtain a registration AND insurance, how responsible of a driver is she actuallly on the road?
Maybe she's poor. Has nothing to do with the offense or whether or not she's a good driver.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Yeah, let's focus on the lip balmers at a red light and ignore the drivers who text at 60MPH. Such wisdom in that!
It's not so much that they ignore it, as that they are looking for an easy target. It's easy to spot a woman putting on lib balm at a red light. All the cop has to do is park near the intersection for a couple of minutes and he will find a victim.

Catching a driver texting at 60 mph is a lot more difficult. About the only way to catch them would be if the cop was also traveling 60 mph in the next lane. More then likely the texting driver would spot the cop in the next lane and just stop doing it.

It's the same reason cops write speeding tickets instead of red light tickets. It's impossible for a cop to fill his quota writing red light tickets. It's too hard to catch red light runners, but speeders... Everybody is speeding, So all the cop has to do is point his radar gun at traffic, and pick out which driver he wants to give the ticket to.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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How many cars weigh 2 tons these days? Does yours?
A Toyota Camry does with two adults. So for the US, figure its more often than not.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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A Toyota Camry does with two adults. So for the US, figure its more often than not.

My Caddy is 2.5 tons sitting empty in the driveway. I could run over the Camry. It's apples and oranges.
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:05 AM
 
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Someone that drives this way - based on expectations of what others do - is going to have an accident.

Someone could be parked at a red light, and maybe it takes them 10 seconds to realize the light has turned green.
Big deal!

They might as well give a ticket for talking while driving (to someone in the car).
That can be much more distracting.


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It can cause an accident. There is a reasonable expectation on the part of other drivers that others are going to do what one expects at traffic signals. Someone coming up on a red light, will start slowing down. If they are still back a bit and it turns green they slow their descent down with the expectation that the car in front of them is going to move.

When the person at the light is doing something other than paying attention and just sits there it does cause the possibility of an accident. Yep the driver coming up needs to take that into account but put the chapstick on when you get parked.
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Scott County, Tennessee/by way of Detroit
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[quote=KaaBoom;39104850]It's not so much that they ignore it, as that they are looking for an easy target. It's easy to spot a woman putting on lib balm at a red light. All the cop has to do is park near the intersection for a couple of minutes and he will find a victim.

Catching a driver texting at 60 mph is a lot more difficult. About the only way to catch them would be if the cop was also traveling 60 mph in the next lane. More then likely the texting driver would spot the cop in the next lane and just stop doing it.

It's the same reason cops write speeding tickets instead of red light tickets. It's impossible for a cop to fill his quota writing red light tickets. It's too hard to catch red light runners, but speeders... Everybody is speeding, So all the cop has to do is point his radar gun at traffic, and pick out which driver he wants to give the ticket to.[/Q


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Old 04-06-2015, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Princeton
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Doing anything other then paying attention behind the wheel is "simple stupid". Lives are at risk..

How many more times do we need to hear about people being simple stupid behind the wheel getting jammed up and hitting another innocent car and knocking them into a rail or a river where people are killed because of not paying attention and being simple stupid..
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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Some of you just need to stay the hell in your houses. Don't ever leave. Don't ever go outside. Don't ever drive a car. Don't go for walks. Don't fly in planes.



Maybe you can wrap your cars in layers of bubble wrap.
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