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Old 04-07-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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I'm perplexed by your commentary. What does firing felons have to do with LGBT rights?
That was my first thought. It seems like OP is trying to hijack his/her own thread Then when I read the article, I found out the construction crew wasn't directly employed by Apple, thus wasn't fired by them. So what exactly is OP's point?
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:15 AM
 
Location: 78745
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most people are working in construction because they have felony convictions on their record.
Over 50% of people who work in construction are convicted felons? That's quite a lot of people. Can you please cite your source? I would like to see that stat and see where it's coming from. Thanks.
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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According to the article DPR, the contractor, fired then. The only connection to Apple is that they were working on the Apple campus. Apple is not their boss, DPR is. Apple hired DPR to do a job. From the OPs link. Apple does not own DPR as far as I know.
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Quite possibly the worst thread I've seen in awhile. Apple had nothing to do with this. This also has nothing to do with LGBT. Swing and a miss OP.
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That was my first thought. It seems like OP is trying to hijack his/her own thread Then when I read the article, I found out the construction crew wasn't directly employed by Apple, thus wasn't fired by them. So what exactly is OP's point?
It is Apple's policy that no felons be on the property that Apple owns. That is the "owner" mentioned in the CBS story. Here is the SJ Mercury News article.

Apple's ban on felons for construction project draws criticism - San Jose Mercury News

Here is the Chronicle article.

Felons barred from constructing Apple

It is clearly Apple's policy, not the construction company's.

I think the tie in that the OP is going for is that Apple is portraying themselves as a corporation for social justice, but are shockingly insensitive when it comes to felons looking for a second chance, especially in cases where the felony is no threat to Apple's business.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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It is Apple's policy that no felons be on the property that Apple owns. That is the "owner" mentioned in the CBS story. Here is the SJ Mercury News article.

Apple's ban on felons for construction project draws criticism - San Jose Mercury News

Here is the Chronicle article.

Felons barred from constructing Apple

It is clearly Apple's policy, not the construction company's.

I think the tie in that the OP is going for is that Apple is portraying themselves as a corporation for social justice, but are shockingly insensitive when it comes to felons looking for a second chance, especially in cases where the felony is no threat to Apple's business.
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They have been in discussions with DPR, the firm overseeing Apple’s new campus, but DPR has not agreed to change the policy.
DPR and Skanska, which also is working on the project, did not return requests for comment. Apple declined to comment on the terminations or confirm that it bars workers with a felony record.
Felons barred from constructing Apple

So, someone says there is a policy, but there is no link to this policy. Apple has not confirmed this policy, and the people fired do not work for Apple but for the contractor DPR.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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I think the tie in that the OP is going for is that Apple is portraying themselves as a corporation for social justice, but are shockingly insensitive when it comes to felons looking for a second chance, especially in cases where the felony is no threat to Apple's business.
Would have easier to hit them for using Chinese sweatshops to build their relatively expensive products instead of using US workers paid a living wage, as Apple once did.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Would have easier to hit them for using Chinese sweatshops to build their relatively expensive products instead of using US workers paid a living wage, as Apple once did.
Yeah, but who wants to pay $6,000 for a computer?

The original Macintosh sold for $2,495 in 84. That would be almost $6,000 today.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Hialeah, Florida
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Yeah, but who wants to pay $6,000 for a computer?

The original Macintosh sold for $2,495 in 84. That would be almost $6,000 today.
They build them in sweatshops so the bosses can put more cash in their pockets, not to keep the prices down for the consumers.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Would the Apple "sweatshop employees" be better off with a job outside of FoxConn in China?
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Hialeah, Florida
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Would the Apple "sweatshop employees" be better off with a job outside of FoxConn in China?
Do you mean in Taipei?
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Do you mean in Taipei?
Isn't Taipei part of China?
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