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Old 04-07-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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Not so; they are far more likely to choose a business known to be inimical to their practices -- then to deliberately provoke a controversy so they can go whining to Big Brother. A lot of people outside the LGBTs' sanctimonious orbit understand this -- perfectly!



And what if one or two evangelicals simply engaged a patron in conversation? It would appear (admittedly to both viewpoints) that one party's "free exchange of opinion" is another's "conspiracy theory" -- but it verdammt sure seems to be the viewpoint of the Politically Correct that only one side's viewpoint counts with them.
Ahem, you are making up this scenario. The bakery incident is real.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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No, people hate Christians because they are always using religion as a reason to oppress people or prevent something from happening.

In the delusional and sick world of the Christian, gay people asking for equal rights is somehow oppressing Christians because it is preventing Christians from legally oppressing gay people.
The delusion is that a world of whatever turns you on is anything more than a plan for conflicts. In the end gays cannot change minds that believe its a sin ;no matter what the law says. They failed to realize what California's vote told them of reality.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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The delusion is that a world of whatever turns you on is anything more than a plan for conflicts. In the end gays cannot change minds that believe its a sin ;no matter what the law says. They failed to realize what California's vote told them of reality.
People are free to believe something is a sin. That's not a problem.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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And of course, in the viewpoint of the Politically Correct, any mention of religious belief is, by definition, "disruptive".

And FWIW, I would have absolutely no problem with that policy, if the establishment in question were a private club. it's the concepts of "public accommodation" and "public convenience and necessity" which allows Big Bother and Sister to stick their noses into a matter where they don't belong to begin with.

Or, as a very wise man said well over a century and a half ago; "The state is the Great Fiction by which everyone tries to have his way .... at the expense of everybody else."
Why would it be be disruptive? I have had some pleasant chats about religion in bars before, no one got tossed out. But there is a difference between two people having a conversation and a group preaching and handing out pamphlets to customers in a business.

IF a gay person went into a bakery and started "preaching" or handing out pamphlets to the customers they should be tossed out. If they are simply ordering something the bakery sells then where is the disruption?
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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No, people hate Christians because they are always using religion as a reason to oppress people or prevent something from happening.

In the delusional and sick world of the Christian, gay people asking for equal rights is somehow oppressing Christians because it is preventing Christians from legally oppressing gay people.

Beautiful post and very DEAD ON!
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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hahaha

We're "sick", huh? Sorry, mate, but true Christians arent cannibalizing other humans, drowning their babies in bathtubs, blowing up innocent people at the bus stop, ambushing police for sport, burning people alive on YouTube, spreading AIDS on mass scale, vacuuming out children from the womb, kidnapping children for the sex trade, transferring meth all over the country, rioting and destroying millions in property, destroying wildlife for fun, promoting teen sex, hacking hitchhikers to pieces and dumping their bodies in swamps, raising dogs for fighting, beating their wives senseless on a mass scale, ordering hits mob-style, pulling drive-by shootings which kill innocent bystanders, etc, etc. THATS the sick world I see. And its NOT Christians behind these sick and disgusting atrocities. You need to look at the real sickness in this world and stop portraying Christians as the "sick" ones.

Ill have you know that we pray for these people and acts. And it matters not that we disagree with gay marriage, we still love gay people, regardless. LOVE.

Yes Christians have done all of that over time. Other religions have done the same.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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Why would it be be disruptive? I have had some pleasant chats about religion in bars before, no one got tossed out. But there is a difference between two people having a conversation and a group preaching and handing out pamphlets to customers in a business.

IF a gay person went into a bakery and started "preaching" or handing out pamphlets to the customers they should be tossed out. If they are simply ordering something the bakery sells then where is the disruption?
I know of incidents where members on the International House of Prayer members went into businesses and preached religion. The friend of mine eventually sold out. Not to mention going to Nigeria and getting them stirred up about the gays and getting some of them killed.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:59 PM
 
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People are free to believe something is a sin. That's not a problem.
Yeah, Christians be all like, "what we can't murder gay people? Stop oppressing us!"
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Huh. A neighboring governor opportunistically trying to poach business from a neighboring state. Pass the smelling salts! What untoward and unprecedented behavior!

For example:
Walker: Wisconsin targeting Minnesota firms - Milwaukee - Milwaukee Business Journal

Actually, I have no problem with what Scott Walker was doing. It's normal.

It's also futile. Minnesota has seen far more jobs created since 2010, when both Governors Walker and Dayton took their respective offices, Minnesota has a much lower unemployment rate, and now Minnesota has a nice hefty surplus while Wisconsin has a large budget deficit because in Wisconsin - surprise, surprise! - the supply-side snake oil failed to work yet again, while in Minnesota - surprise, surprise! - the tax hikes failed to kill job creation yet again as the local GOP insisted they would yet again.
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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This takes the neighborly rivalry one step further.

Illinois governor: I want to

It's also interesting he had this to say, right after the controversy died down.
If the quote is accurate and in context, then he should be removed from office. That is nothing less than malicious intent and not something an elected official should be doing.
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