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Old 04-08-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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I never understand why a certain segment loves to get into it with cops instead of just cooperating and not escalating the situation.
Apparently you haven't noticed that a "certain segment" faces a much greater risk of being assaulted and killed by police without cause than "other segments." As a middle-aged white woman, I have nothing to lose by cooperating with police if I'm stopped. (BTW, I haven't been stopped by police in more than 25 years.) Other segments are routinely stopped and sometimes shot when they reach into their pocket for their wallet. Perhaps you can't understand the actions of other "segments" because your experiences so far have been very different from theirs.

 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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Simple solution. Don't fight with the police.
Sounds simple enough but a certain segment of the population will never get it.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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True, but assaulting a Police Officer and attempting to take his weapon should result in death for the perp.
In a police state or dictatorship, maybe. Not in a country supposedly ruled by law.

And in any case, this video shows that the cop did not even draw his weapon until the guy was running away.

I cannot believe the attempts to justify this cop's behavior. He obviously knew his behavior was wrong because he tried to plant the taser by the guy's body.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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Simple solution. Don't fight with the police.
That in no way guarantees anyone's safety. A much better solution is to train police officers to do their job, which is to apprehend people, not shoot them in the back when they're running away.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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I don't care about race as much as a cop shooting and killing another unarmed civilian. The civilian may have been a petty criminal, but wasn't putting anyone's life in danger, from what we know. And it doesn't have to be murder, either. It can be any unlawful act that a cop can get away with from assault/battery to money laundering.

I do get tired of certain people on here always bringing up black on black crime in these threads. Okay, 90% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. Over 80% of whites are murdered by other whites, so what's your point?

As if the same-race murder rates A) have anything to do with the issue at hand or B) somehow justify or lessen the fact that cops are murdering unarmed civilians.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Simple solution. Don't fight with the police.
So it's ok to execute people who run from the police? You're callous and that's a disgusting statement. Thankfully there aren't more heartless people like you and there's outrage.

By the way, that guy running from the police looked to totally out of shape and easily caught by the officer. No injuries sustained by the officer either.

Maybe next it will be don't jaywalk if you don't want to get shot.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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That in no way guarantees anyone's safety. A much better solution is to train police officers to do their job, which is to apprehend people, not shoot them in the back when they're running away.
But it almost always guarantees injury or death which is the point.

  • Don't lead a lifestyle that will lead to you having engagements with the police. '
  • If you do engage the police, don't fight them. You will lose. And you may die. The place to deal with it is in the court.
This is advice is guaranteed to work.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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That in no way guarantees anyone's safety. A much better solution is to train police officers to do their job, which is to apprehend people, not shoot them in the back when they're running away.
It sounds simple until you come to realize that cops are humans, and whenever you involve humans, you'll have x% that do really bad things when they think nobody is watching.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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So it's ok to execute people who run from the police? You're callous and that's a disgusting statement. Thankfully there aren't more heartless people like you and there's outrage.

By the way, that guy running from the police looked to totally out of shape and easily caught by the officer. No injuries sustained by the officer either.

Maybe next it will be don't jaywalk if you don't want to get shot.
Thank you.

I can only speculate that the people defending the officer and saying that as long as you cooperate you'll be fine are doing so because the victim here belongs to a "certain segment" of the population.

Why can't people see how thin that line is and how easily it would be for the line to be crossed and for their "segment" to be affected? As long as any officer thinks it's okay to shoot any individual in the back, no one is safe from that type of behavior. If for no other reason than callous self-preservation people from all "segments" and all political backgrounds should be appalled and calling for renewed training and discipline for law enforcement.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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So it's ok to execute people who run from the police? You're callous and that's a disgusting statement. Thankfully there aren't more heartless people like you and there's outrage. By the way, that guy running from the police looked to totally out of shape and easily caught by the officer. No injuries sustained by the officer either. Maybe next it will be don't jaywalk if you don't want to get shot.
Addressing each point:

  1. No it's not OK to execute people for simple running. This isn't what was claimed. So point is irrelevant.
  2. You state that I'm callous, disgusting, heartless - You demonstrate that you have no ability to discuss the subject as an adult.
  3. Yes there is outrage. Yet the cop has been arrested and charged with murder. Do you want him executed on the spot too? If so, then you are just as guilty as those you condemn.
  4. Out of shape? You are making assumption. So irrelevant.
  5. Jaywalking - irrelevant.
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