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Old 04-10-2015, 05:55 PM
 
Location: SC
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But as a proportion of the population, more African-Americans are shot. I assume the reasons for that are due to increased criminality (in general) amongst them mixed in with potential increased wariness/caution/aggressiveness from cops due to racism & their experience with African-Americans in the past.
I'm not so sure it is increased criminality so much as increased scrutiny and targeting by police. It has already been shown that more Blacks than Whites were pulled over by police for traffic stops. At least 23% more often than Whites.

More drug use take place in white communities, yet blacks are filing the jails. I don't think it is at all inconceivable that cops are just turning a blind eye to white crime and looking for black criminals (i.e. NYC stop and frisk).

This of course leads to more black with criminal records, more blacks who cannot get jobs, [to borrow from a White show] yada, yada, yada...

You really can get pulled over for driving while black, federal statistics show - The Washington Post

 
Old 04-10-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Sadly this could have all been prevented if the guy didn't run and just accepted his consequences of his warrant and he would have lived to see another day.
That is not a reason to kill him. The Officer had his driver's license and knew where he lived, there is no justification for shooting him, he should have let him go and then waited until the guy went home and arrested him- end of story.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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I never understood either until today. They run because they know what to expect.
It could very well be that this guy knew of this cops reputation and didn't want to get beat up on his way to the jail. Like it or not, that happens more often than most people realize
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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Baloney. You run from the police, you get just what you deserve.
you deserve to die if you run from a cop? geezus
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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Can anyone blame a person of color for running from the police? Even when you give up and lay on the ground you're not always free from police brutality.

This guy gets down on the ground, hands out and surrendering but 1 officer runs up and kicks him in the head just before the other officer kicks him right in the nuts. Then they proceed to beat the crap out of him for several minutes straight as 5 or 6 other officers run up and join in the senseless beating. None of the cops who aren't beating him do anything to stop it and none of the officers seem concerned about the news helicopter flying above. There is a widespread culture of lawlessness and utter contempt for minorities at work here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxqzzuvmmjw
not just contempt for minorities, the guy in San Bernardino is white, it is more contempt for anyone who is not a police officer.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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Of course, had he not run. Heck he would have probably been given a summons with his court date, and told to be on his way.
or..he might have known that he would have lost a few teeth on his way to jail after being beaten by this thug cop.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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And that's what's key here.

1. don't run from the cops
2. if a cop is acting like an unprofessional, aggressive A-hole, you comply, and file a full, straight up complaint and seek representation.

You never run away from cops when they pull you over! You don't fight back against A-hole, unprofessional cops. You get their name, recall the situation accurately, go public with the situation, etc.

Of course, this is easy for those of us with a crystal clean record. I understand this, I have a crystal clean record. But if I didn't, that's all the more reason for me to comply with unprofessional police and file a report like any citizen has the right to do.

Walter Scott is dead because he dare to run away from an A-hole cop. There was no good reason for him to do so! He feared going to jail you say? Well, his kids don't have a father anymore!

I'm glad his murder was caught on video, and I'm glad Slager was fired and will go to trial over Scott's death. Cops need to be held accountable for their actions when they make the decision to fire their weapon on an unarmed person. This situation had to happen so that things can change.

Good things come out of tragedies.
oh BS..you are very good at giving directions about how you 'should' react if you are arrested but it can get complicated. There are some bad cops out there, I worked in law enforcement and knew some of them. The really bad ones beat you senseless on your way to jail and make sure you won't be posting bail any time soon by planting a sack of dope on you or putting their throw down in your jacket pocket. Chances are that this POS cop already had a reputation for doing one or more of those things and this guy knew it and ran, in which case he made a very rational choice.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Well, for all of you who believe not running is the only way..Here's what happens when LE catches up to you and lie spread eagle on ground face down. It's likely what Walter Scott knew all too well what was coming to him~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHCjkHXKQ3A
thank you, that's what I have been trying to say but people in this thread seem to think that if you do what a cop wants it's all good they will thank you, write you a ticket and send you on your way!
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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That all comes down to departmental policy. Are they required to provide CPR, or are they in an area where FIRE/Medic response in only moments away, so radio for them and wait?
If someone is dying they have an absolute obligation to render first aid until medics arrive, doesn't matter what department policy says, it's common sense and a personal liability attorney's dream case
 
Old 04-10-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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Fleeing does not equate not going to jail only prolongs the period before taken into custody.

It equates to additional charges for fleeing a police officer and worse if resisting with violence occurs.

You really did not see that part of it?
Do you not get the part about the possibility that the guy who was shot knew that this thug cop would beat him, or worse plant a gun or dope on him? Do you really think that a cop who would shoot someone in the back for running wouldn't do something like that? Do you really think that the people in the community didn't know about this guys reputation? how very naive...
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