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Old 04-10-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Once an investigation is done, you submit a report and at that point your out of the loop. From there it moves to the next level. But at to your inquiry directly from an investigator. He had seen people he failed a few months before at the academy going through the further steps of becoming a LEO.
The first half of your post is pretty much, completely incorrect. As for the second half, if someone gets bounced out of a background investigation the first time, but somehow, get passed on to another investigator in the same testing process is an incredible long shot, which would then open up said department to all kinds of liability.
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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It is unacceptable, and the cop should be fired. If you worked in a bank and stole, you be fired. I hate this modified desk duty, or temporary suspension crap. He needs to be fired.

also on another note, if the taxes weren't so damn high on smokes, they wouldn't have to stuff like that....just sayin'.....and I'm not even a smoker....
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The first half of your post is pretty much, completely incorrect. As for the second half, if someone gets bounced out of a background investigation the first time, but somehow, get passed on to another investigator in the same testing process is an incredible long shot, which would then open up said department to all kinds of liability.
For some reason you think what happens in California is perfect and is the same process in every other state. Well it's not. When politics enters the picture all the rules go out the window. With all the Police misconduct lawsuits across the US somewhere something went wrong or was diverted during the path of becoming a LEO.

Even in your neck of woods, not only have citizens sued the LAPD but also LEOs have sued the LAPD.
LAPD, lawsuits: Some LAPD officers becoming millionaires by suing the city - latimes
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Secure, Undisclosed
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Not sure I buy that. Most people (I think) do not steal ONLY because of opportunity. I believe more people steal - especially petty theft - because of dire need. I believe the more successful you become - and the further you are away from sleeping in the streets; the less likely you are to steal.
The irony of that is I spent the final 12 years of my career locking up con men, white collar criminals and corporations - most of whom were very, very well to do. The few who stole did so because of opportunity, not need. Though anecdotal, my work tends to support the criminological research.

As to crooked cops at crime scenes, I'm also one of the few who has taken a gun and a badge from a bad cop. And he didn't steal from the public - he just lied to me. That alone was career ending for him.

What is surprising is how many people posting on this board start with a very negative perception of police officers. Saddens me to think I spent more than 30 years protecting a population, the majority of whom seem to think I would steal from a crime scene. Wow.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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For some reason you think what happens in California is perfect and is the same process in every other state. Well it's not. When politics enters the picture all the rules go out the window. With all the Police misconduct lawsuits across the US somewhere something went wrong or was diverted during the path of becoming a LEO.

Even in your neck of woods, not only have citizens sued the LAPD but also LEOs have sued the LAPD.
LAPD, lawsuits: Some LAPD officers becoming millionaires by suing the city - latimes
News flash, I don't work in CA and I never said the system was perfect, I do however, believe your understanding of the background investigation system is flawed. If you don't mind my asking, how many BI's have you conducted?
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:31 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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The irony of that is I spent the final 12 years of my career locking up con men, white collar criminals and corporations - most of whom were very, very well to do. The few who stole did so because of opportunity, not need. Though anecdotal, my work tends to support the criminological research.

As to crooked cops at crime scenes, I'm also one of the few who has taken a gun and a badge from a bad cop. And he didn't steal from the public - he just lied to me. That alone was career ending for him.

What is surprising is how many people posting on this board start with a very negative perception of police officers. Saddens me to think I spent more than 30 years protecting a population, the majority of whom seem to think I would steal from a crime scene. Wow.
Welcome to the mosh pit... I get it everyday... tunes me up for the shift
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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What is surprising is how many people posting on this board start with a very negative perception of police officers. Saddens me to think I spent more than 30 years protecting a population, the majority of whom seem to think I would steal from a crime scene. Wow.
It depends on if they ever interacted with LEOs or have never met one and are basing their perceptions on the media or others who have had contact with LEOs. Many LEOs that I know are upstanding and are role models. But I've met or know of a few that I've gone WTF? How in hell did they become LEOs?

To give one example; I went into a precinct in NYC a few years back to have lunch with the Captain (we were in the military together). While waiting for him, I saw two uniforms that I recognized. They were both low level drug dealers during their youth in one of the neighborhoods I lived in previously. I told him about it during lunch and never brought it up again. They may have had a life changing event or they simply had no arrest record, but he deserved to know.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Welcome to the mosh pit... I get it everyday... tunes me up for the shift
See, even you put out a negative connotation to a mosh pit. I've seen many that are simply people bouncing off each other and nothing more. And I've only seen one where people starting punching each other. Not all are the same and should not be judged at being the same.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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News flash, I don't work in CA and I never said the system was perfect, I do however, believe your understanding of the background investigation system is flawed. If you don't mind my asking, how many BI's have you conducted?
I never said I do them. I said I know LEOs who do them.

fwiw, You list your current location as Riverside County which as far as I know is in CA. You reside in CA and work in AZ. And I'm guessing a former NYr by the attitude??

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Old 04-10-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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Cops are people so they commit all the same crimes other people commit. LEO's steal, beat people up, have sex with minors, kill people, use drugs, deal drugs. You name it and an LEO has done it.
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