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Old 04-15-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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How about YOU lighten up?

There's another thread on this subject right here in current events. Go fill it up!
Why would I need to lighten up? I'm not an over protective helicopter parent raising a child who is unable to care for themself. I'm not saying you are either but that's what this type of thinking leads to. Children have to learn to do things for themselves.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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You don't agree that violent crime is substantially lower today than in the past several decades? Based on what? Something other than facts and statistics I suppose.
Go on over and add your point of view to the other thread about this. I'll bet you won't.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Why would I need to lighten up? I'm not an over protective helicopter parent raising a child who is unable to care for themself. I'm not saying you are either but that's what this type of thinking leads to. Children have to learn to do things for themselves.
I'm not raising any either. You didn't read through the posts. Try the new thread by Brad Piff on this very subject. That thread is lonely.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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I don't know what is right.
We were overprotective with our kids.
When I grew up (I am 60 now) I walked to school at 5 years old and could leave the house on non school days in the morning and return at night by the time I was in 3rd grade.
When my dad grew up he was a paper boy at 7 years old and got up at 4 AM to deliver milk when he was eight.
My wife tells me those were different times but I don't know if that is true or if we just here more about the bad things that happen now.
My dad was more responsible than I was and I believe my children are less responsible than I was. Although by the time they became adults they were responsible adults.
But I knew my kids were safe up to a point.

What I really am trying to say is I don't know what to say.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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I don't know what is right.
We were overprotective with our kids.
When I grew up (I am 60 now) I walked to school at 5 years old and could leave the house on non school days in the morning and return at night by the time I was in 3rd grade.
When my dad grew up he was a paper boy at 7 years old and got up at 4 AM to deliver milk when he was eight.
My wife tells me those were different times but I don't know if that is true or if we just here more about the bad things that happen now.
My dad was more responsible than I was and I believe my children are less responsible than I was. Although by the time they became adults they were responsible adults.
But I knew my kids were safe up to a point.

What I really am trying to say is I don't know what to say.
Pfffffffftttttttttttttt
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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I'm not raising any either. You didn't read through the posts. Try the new thread by Brad Piff on this very subject. That thread is lonely.
I did but I see you're to scared to do the same. Point is this isn't a my opinion only forum. People are free to disagree with you that's the beauty of it. BTW I really have no idea why you would think going to a neighborhood park so close to home is a big deal.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Pfffffffftttttttttttttt

Can't counter that one, can you?
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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When I was in first grade (age 6 turning 7 in late September 1981) I was trusted to ride my bicycle 1.1 miles to school by myself, lock it up with a combination lock, get into the school building and do the school thing, leave at the end, unlock the combination lock, and ride home alone 1.1 miles. Not every single day but when it was nice out. Sometimes I'd meet up with my friend Andy halfway.

And on weekends or during breaks or summer? Forget about it, from first grade on (age 7+) we spent most of our time outside, playing sports, exploring the creeks and forests, riding bikes everywhere, hanging out at the playgrounds, etc. Just be home by dark or thereabouts.

So I guess my parents did the "free-range" style back then. Was normal at the time though.

I'm so glad I'll never have children.
Andy Halfway is a cool name.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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Can't counter that one, can you?
I haven't tried to "counter" anything. What I have done (if you read) was stand by my opinion!!!!

What of it?
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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That's your opinion of how they treat their kids. They are raising them they want to. Different doesn't necessarily mean wrong. You do know this, yes?
Some people do all kinds of terrible thing to their kids. Treating a 16 year old like a toddler is objectively stupid and only serves to undercut the child's development.

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Don't agree. I stand by that!
Violent crime is at the lowest levels in ~30 years in this country. You can disagree all you want but you're disagreeing with facts. You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.
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