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Old 04-20-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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Just do it in a humane and quick way as that's the only way it will EVER be approved by the general public...All the people on here giving the "lets torture" them are just irrelevant losers who need to pretend that their opinions are relevant/important/or "edgy" to society (sorry buddy, but nobody cares about how "You would fix the criminal justice system....you are irrelevant and probably work at Taco Bell as your career)

Its funny how people act like the avenue of the internet makes there opinions and feelings about issues important...
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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Capital punishment is barbaric. But what makes it worse is all the denial. Everyone wants to make it painless, to not feel guilty about it. It should be as painful as possible, to constantly remind us how barbaric it is. And also to supplement whatever deterrent effect it has, if any. Executions should always be in public, and should always involve extreme pain, to force people to face the reality of how barbaric they're being when they favor capital punishment. And to give capital punishment its best shot at being a deterrent. It needs to make spectators think about how much they want to avoid it at all costs. Especially impressionable kids headed for a life of crime.

We could make spectators pay for the privilege of helping with the execution. They could hammer nails into the condemned, and pay $5 per nail, or $10 for nails into the eyeballs.

If that sounds barbaric to you, it's time to wake up, and stop pretending capital punishment is anything less.

Cool story bro....

The point of capital punishment is closure for the victims family members and to remove a dangerous person from civilized society....Revenge and deterring crime should never be the function of it (and it doesn't deter crime since death penalty states often have the highest crime rates and crime is driven by other factors)....

Just do it quick and use a firing squad....All the "experts" on here coming up with revolutionary ways to revamp the justice system and get revenge are just irrelevant losers who want to sound tough and who want to pretend that their opinions are important and will ever have any impact on policy making....Hate to break it to you, but 99.99999 percent of people (and their opinions) will never influence any policy making decisions in society (and that's a good thing)...So all it's reduced to is whining and pretending you are relevant/important on internet forums....

The internet is the avenue for irrelevant nobodies to feel powerful and important....
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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Just do it in a humane and quick way as that's the only way it will EVER be approved by the general public...All the people on here giving the "lets torture" them are just irrelevant losers who need to pretend that their opinions are relevant/important/or "edgy" to society (sorry buddy, but nobody cares about how "You would fix the criminal justice system....you are irrelevant and probably work at Taco Bell as your career) Its funny how people act like the avenue of the internet makes there opinions and feelings about issues important...
well of course you must be right because we can all see that you are the only relevent one on this thread and anyone in their right mind would instantly know that your opinions and feelings are of supreme importance lololol
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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I say give the convict his/her appeals process and when that is complete put them on death row. On a random day just have the executioner walk in and do it. The victims didn't know it was coming. They didn't have the opportunity for a "last meal" or visitation with family before their deaths and neither should the convict.

I am being lenient though. If justice were to be served the convict would be killed in the same way they killed their victim.

You can "say" it all you want....Doesn't mean it will EVER come even remotely close to happening in the way you suggest.....What you are suggesting sounds cool and probably makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside as you pretend you are Clint Eastwood.....but it will NEVER be set up that way so there is no point....

Say it all you want, but it won't become a reality....
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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Cool story bro....

The point of capital punishment is closure for the victims family members and to remove a dangerous person from civilized society....Revenge and deterring crime should never be the function of it (and it doesn't deter crime since death penalty states often have the highest crime rates and crime is driven by other factors)....

Just do it quick and use a firing squad....All the "experts" on here coming up with revolutionary ways to revamp the justice system and get revenge are just irrelevant losers who want to sound tough and who want to pretend that their opinions are important and will ever have any impact on policy making....Hate to break it to you, but 99.99999 percent of people (and their opinions) will never influence any policy making decisions in society (and that's a good thing)...So all it's reduced to is whining and pretending you are relevant/important on internet forums....

The internet is the avenue for irrelevant nobodies to feel powerful and important....
Closure is a construct that we have somehow developed to make people feel ok with killing another human being- my proof for that, most other 1st world Nations do not have the death penalty and their residents are not lusting for closure...just ask folks who live outside of the US if you don't believe me

Remove a dangerous person from society. Bullcrap. No one escapes from modern prisons and half of these guys are so old when they eventually are executed that they wouldn't be a danger to society if you let them loose.

It is revenge, it is blood lust and everything else people say about it is just alot of meaningless rhetoric intended to justify murder.
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: la la land
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I'm sure that some haven't escaped, but others have flown the coop.

And those who don't escape are a constant hazard to other prisoners as well as staff and visitors.
name one inmate who is doing time for a capital offense who has escaped in the past 30 years. It does NOT happen. Visitors are not allowed contact with dangerous inmates and guards are not going to put themselves in harms way. When guards are injured it's usually from a 20 year old gang banger wanna be who is trying to show how tough he is.

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Old 04-20-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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Or the state could simply abolish the death penalty.
They could, but they shouldn't. Personally I think we should introduce them to Madame La Guillotine....
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:02 PM
 
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Kill shelters use CO2 on dogs and cats.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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It is revenge, it is blood lust and everything else people say about it is just alot of meaningless rhetoric intended to justify murder.
This is meaningless rhetoric. It's about punishment. Treating individuals according to what they are. You don't treat a murderer like an innocent person. You don't treat an innocent person like a murderer. Aristotle's law of identity applied to the field of justice. You identify what a person in fact is, then you treat them accordingly....
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:08 PM
 
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This is meaningless rhetoric. It's about punishment. Treating individuals according to what they are. You don't treat a murderer like an innocent person. You don't treat an innocent person like a murderer. Aristotle's law of identity applied to the field of justice. You identify what a person in fact is, then you treat them accordingly....
We can't even seem to figure out who is guilty and you want to impose an irreversible punishment? Isn't life in prison punishment? It seems to suffice for most civilized countries. Perhaps your defense of state sanctioned murder is meaningless rhetoric..
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