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Old 04-19-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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The outcry over sport hunting by outraged, hyper-sensitized, predominately-female suburbanites might be likened to the Noble Experiment of Prohibition. Even should it "succeed", or gain substantial ground, there remains a point sufficiently detached from the clutches of industrialized civilization where the "law" becomes unenforceable.
Well that is one of the dumber things I have read in a while.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Yup. However, that is irrelevant to my position. For example if someone believes that more government funding should go to repairing roadways does that mean they have to go out with a bunch of asphalt and fix the highways themselves first?

You missed the point.

It was decided decades ago that a small number of people, in this case hunters/fishermen, would support conservation of wildlife, pay for acquisition of land, improve wildlife habitat and pay for reasearch for everyone.

Public hunting/fishing areas are not closed to just people who participate but are open to anyone even during the various seasons.

Since that state of affairs is likely to continue then you, as a concerned citizen, should do more for conservation efforts other than say "raise taxes".
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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You missed the point.

It was decided decades ago that a small number of people, in this case hunters/fishermen, would support conservation of wildlife, pay for acquisition of land, improve wildlife habitat and pay for reasearch for everyone.

Public hunting/fishing areas are not closed to just people who participate but are open to anyone even during the various seasons.

Since that state of affairs is likely to continue then you, as a concerned citizen, should do more for conservation efforts other than say "raise taxes".
I am saying that decision made decades ago should be changed.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Because ivory is so valuable to some humans, many elephants have been killed for their tusks. This trade is illegal today, but it has not been completely eliminated, and some African elephant populations remain endangered.

National Geographic
If I own a farm, and there are three rabbits there the rabbits on my farm are endangered. That doesn't mean rabbits in general are endangered.

There are some places where there aren't many wild elephants left and some where there are. As a whole elephants aren't endangered.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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The incident is why they call elephant dangerous game. They really will try to kill you because they are intelligent enough to realize you are trying to kill them.

I have often wondered why these thrill seeking persons, both men and women, hunt dangerous game. Why don't they just join an army and hunt really, really dangerous game. Trained and armed humans make elephants seem like friendly pets.
There's a lot more to being in the army than fighting people. There are probably plenty of folks who would be down for fighting but won't join an army due to lack of freedom, low pay, little career control, unusual living conditions, long term commitment, and a host of other valid reasons, but if it boiled down to just go fight people for a few months and you're done you'd likely be having to turn more people away than the military is now.
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Game Hunter Ian Gibson Trampled To Death By Elephant





Poetic Justice
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I am saying that decision made decades ago should be changed.
You didn't look at any of the links I posted, especially the 3rd one, did you? That one will give a true picture of how much you're talking about.
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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Sad to say it but big game hunting is a critically needed source of eco-tourism dollars, at least for now.

The real threat to animals here and in Africa is habitat destruction and especially in 3rd world countries where poverty and corruption are endemic whom do you think pays for the rangers that stop the poachers, the wood-cutters etc etc etc?

Would I prefer another way? Sure. But I'm a realist and for now a proven tactic is partnering with the hunters in order to save the big picture.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Just an update on dinner; it was one of the best rib roasts I have ever cooked in my life! Nice medium rare and cooked just enough to make the meat a perfect melt in your mouth meal. The best thing is it was free! I let the guy across the road harvest my hay every year and he gives me half a cow. There was enough left over to give my four dogs (that I love dearly) a taste and my old guy "Buddy" really loved it. He is a 22 year old beagle mix and I like treating him.

The great thing is when they poop it out it will fertilize the field that the cow we ate fed off of. When I poop it out it will return to the soil as well to continue the cycle.

In my opinion Vegans can stuff their tofu; nothing beats a great cut of meat.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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Game Hunter Ian Gibson Trampled To Death By Elephant

Best wishes and a speedy recovery for the elephant.
Karma.
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