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Old 04-20-2015, 12:21 AM
 
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Seriously. With a ridiculous track record of total corruption, horrible employee treatment, destroying the American manufacturing base by cutting prices to nothing and shipping jobs to China....I really do not understand why these stores still exist. Apart from incredibly rural areas where its the only game in town, how can Americans still give their money to one of the main causes of our economic ruin?

Not only that, but how can so-called patriotic Americans give their money to buy products made by a country that is a dictatorship? We had a decades long embargo against Cuba, (supposedly) because of their alignment with Soviet Russia. But China, who mows its people down with impunity, pays its workers pennies an hour and hosts many of the most polluted cities in the world, they get a total pass in the name of economics. And it isn't even economics that benefits US, or the Chinese worker- it only enriches a handful of people. I am sure that WalMart demanding lower prices had more to do with the closing of our own factories than any other single cause.

So how can anyone continue to shop there? What are your reasons?
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:28 AM
 
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My primary vendor for home and business.
You can pay more if you want; somebody has to.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:33 AM
 
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My primary vendor for home and business.
You can pay more if you want; somebody has to.
Exactly! Those of us in the besieged middle class shop there because it is affordable given our pay which is low vs cost of living especially in some areas of the country such as San Diego (btw, I live up in Riverside County and commute for work).
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:41 AM
 
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Seriously. With a ridiculous track record of total corruption, horrible employee treatment, destroying the American manufacturing base by cutting prices to nothing and shipping jobs to China....I really do not understand why these stores still exist. Apart from incredibly rural areas where its the only game in town, how can Americans still give their money to one of the main causes of our economic ruin?

Not only that, but how can so-called patriotic Americans give their money to buy products made by a country that is a dictatorship? We had a decades long embargo against Cuba, (supposedly) because of their alignment with Soviet Russia. But China, who mows its people down with impunity, pays its workers pennies an hour and hosts many of the most polluted cities in the world, they get a total pass in the name of economics. And it isn't even economics that benefits US, or the Chinese worker- it only enriches a handful of people. I am sure that WalMart demanding lower prices had more to do with the closing of our own factories than any other single cause.

So how can anyone continue to shop there? What are your reasons?
Because people don't care, they just want the 'best price' they could care less about the companies "morals'.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:42 AM
 
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1 in 6 Americans are now living on foodstamps. (never been this high) Even more are are getting some other type of the government assistance. Welcome to the Obama economy.

Walmart caters to this market unlike the high end "lifestyle" grocers found mostly elsewhere. They even have special kiosks there to process tax forms so people who don't work can apply for their child tax credit refund. As proof, in their last annual report, they list changes in Government EBT programs represent substantial risk to future revenue. Walmart exists because of the huge expansion of the welfare state. Fix that and Walmart disappears.

This is why people shop there.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:05 AM
 
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Seriously. With a ridiculous track record of total corruption, horrible employee treatment, destroying the American manufacturing base by cutting prices to nothing and shipping jobs to China....I really do not understand why these stores still exist. Apart from incredibly rural areas where its the only game in town, how can Americans still give their money to one of the main causes of our economic ruin?

Not only that, but how can so-called patriotic Americans give their money to buy products made by a country that is a dictatorship? We had a decades long embargo against Cuba, (supposedly) because of their alignment with Soviet Russia. But China, who mows its people down with impunity, pays its workers pennies an hour and hosts many of the most polluted cities in the world, they get a total pass in the name of economics. And it isn't even economics that benefits US, or the Chinese worker- it only enriches a handful of people. I am sure that WalMart demanding lower prices had more to do with the closing of our own factories than any other single cause.

So how can anyone continue to shop there? What are your reasons?


Because insanely enough, for some people, being able to afford groceries and put food on the table for their families overrides various political and social justice concerns.


People shop there because it is cheap, when you don't have a lot of money, you don't go shopping at Whole Foods, you shop where you can best stretch your dollar, its really not all that complicated honestly. People talk about "the grand scheme of things" but I'd venture that the average person just wants to be able to get through the next weeks, month....etc.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:19 AM
 
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1 in 6 Americans are now living on foodstamps. (never been this high) Even more are are getting some other type of the government assistance. Welcome to the Obama economy.

Walmart caters to this market unlike the high end "lifestyle" grocers found mostly elsewhere. They even have special kiosks there to process tax forms so people who don't work can apply for their child tax credit refund. As proof, in their last annual report, they list changes in Government EBT programs represent substantial risk to future revenue. Walmart exists because of the huge expansion of the welfare state. Fix that and Walmart disappears.

This is why people shop there.
This has nothing to do with Obama. This company forced many manufacturers in America into lowering their prices catastrophically, and this is has predated Obama by decades. The trade agreements Clinton made with China, the door of which was opened by Nixon, was accepted on the idea that China was a huge nation of potential consumers of American products. Except that didn't happen. People in China could not afford our products. And they flooded the market with the same product, made cheaper.

And do you realize that WalMart's employees are encouraged to get welfare, because they cannot afford WalMart's health plan, and many cannot afford food, period? Are you aware of the numbers of people who have lost their jobs and small companies when Walmart came into their town?

You really need to take aim at the cause, not the symptom. And you need to understand the causes. The welfare system is a symptom of need, not a cause. The idea that the only people on welfare are the undeserving is a myth that holds up to no scrutiny. The idea of Walmart gutting America is a well-established and factually based. It is literally un-American to turn a blind eye to what Walmart is doing, and its a cheap shot to blame the bottom- a typical trope that dissolves with any research.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:21 AM
 
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Because people don't care, they just want the 'best price' they could care less about the companies "morals'.
Most dont know the reality of what WALMART really is! (The ppl behind it)
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:22 AM
 
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Because insanely enough, for some people, being able to afford groceries and put food on the table for their families overrides various political and social justice concerns.


People shop there because it is cheap, when you don't have a lot of money, you don't go shopping at Whole Foods, you shop where you can best stretch your dollar, its really not all that complicated honestly. People talk about "the grand scheme of things" but I'd venture that the average person just wants to be able to get through the next weeks, month....etc.
Being able to eat IS a social concern. If you can't pay your bills and you can't get a job because the factory you worked at closed because they could not afford to pay a fair wage and lower their prices to suit Walmart, that is a social concern. In case you have been under a rock for the past 30 years, things have gotten worse.

Everywhere WalMart goes you find a drop in property values, businesses closing, higher pollution, more people on welfare (many of whom work at WalMart) and a distinct disregard for their workers and the people who buy their products.

People really need to examine where their dollar goes, because they are feeding a beast that will devour them.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:25 AM
 
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Apparently no one has watched the documentary "Is WalMart Good For America?" or "Walmart-the High Cost of Low Price". They are on Youtube. Or examine the dozens of lawsuits levied against and won against WalMart. Then decide if how you spend your dollar matters.
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