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Old 07-06-2015, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Darling, I've already had shingles. And I don't need anyone to feel sorry for me. The point is, I may not have had them at all or their severity would have been reduced if I had had the vaccine instead of chicken pox.

 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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It will be interesting to follow the current generation as they grow older to see if that will be the case. I certainly hope so, but we can't know that yet. The first generation of kids to receive the varicella vaccine are just entering their twenties.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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The point is, I may not have had them at all or their severity would have been reduced if I had had the vaccine instead of chicken pox.
Someone who never catches chickenpox CANNOT get shingles. It's as simple as that. Kids growing up now who've had the vaccine and thus never catch chickenpox will probably need boosters as an adult to maintain their immunity, but I'd take a needle jab every decade or so over shingles any day.

Varicella-zoster virus is on the short list of infectious diseases we can actually drive into extinction if we work globally to achieve that goal. It won't be as easy to eradicate as smallpox, polio, or measles (since it can hide in the nervous system to re-erupt as potentially infectious shingles, so it won't be 100% gone until the last person natively infected has died), but it can be exterminated if we are determined enough. And wouldn't that be great?
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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They have to deal with child care whether the kids are vaccinated or not. Families with working parents - single or married - do home school.
Excuse me but how many group daycare settings take in school aged children? It's much more expensive to have daycare for a 7 year old then it is for a three year old. Step into reality, will you? Normally when you get into an all or nothing mentality it's a sign that you are incorrect. You saying that all people who do not wish to vaccinate for everything on the schedule in CA came just homeschool. Your logic is faulty.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Darling, I've already had shingles. And I don't need anyone to feel sorry for me. The point is, I may not have had them at all or their severity would have been reduced if I had had the vaccine instead of chicken pox.
You may get it again and you could very easily do some simple things to help prevent it, but you won't. Too bad for you.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Someone who never catches chickenpox CANNOT get shingles.
Um, yes, they can.

Can the Chickenpox Vaccine Cause Shingles Later in Life?

And of course there's this:

"Chicken pox can also be spread from people with shingles. The varicella-zoster virus also causes shingles. A person with
shingles can spread the virus to others who have never had chicken pox or received the chicken pox vaccine."

Nov 16, 2011
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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We cannot say that for sure. We certainly hope that's the case, but, as I stated earlier, the varicella vaccine was introduced in 1995. The first wave of kids who were vaccinated haven't been alive long enough for us to track. This is not like smallpox or even polio. It's going to take several more decades before researchers can say with certainty that the campaign to eradicate chickenpox and shingles has been successful.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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Someone who never catches chickenpox CANNOT get shingles. It's as simple as that. Kids growing up now who've had the vaccine and thus never catch chickenpox will probably need boosters as an adult to maintain their immunity, but I'd take a needle jab every decade or so over shingles any day.

Varicella-zoster virus is on the short list of infectious diseases we can actually drive into extinction if we work globally to achieve that goal. It won't be as easy to eradicate as smallpox, polio, or measles (since it can hide in the nervous system to re-erupt as potentially infectious shingles, so it won't be 100% gone until the last person natively infected has died), but it can be exterminated if we are determined enough. And wouldn't that be great?
People who get the chicken pox vaccine are also at risk for shingles. They absolutely can and do get shingles just like people who had actual chicken pox.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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People who get the chicken pox vaccine are also at risk for shingles. They absolutely can and do get shingles just like people who had actual chicken pox.
They can, but it's rare and as I said before, their shingles would not be nearly as severe as the shingles they would get had they had chicken pox.
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