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Old 08-05-2015, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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again if one feels that strong you would have to move to a state where it would be easier to stand by your convictions or compromise.
Compromise as in not all vaccines? Not possible. Move to another state? Really? And this is not coercion or even force? When one choice becomes a burden then you are forced to chose the other. Is that true choice?

 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Compromise as in not all vaccines? Not possible. Move to another state? Really? And this is not coercion or even force? When one choice becomes a burden then you are forced to chose the other. Is that true choice?
unfortunately it is called between a rock and a hard place. you have to make a choice, a compromise. standing by your convictions when they put you out of the "main stream" is very difficult. the choice you make to stand by the conviction or compromise, is where the rubber hits the road.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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Moving is expensive and not always feasible. I also do not believe that the elimination of exemptions will remain limited to CA, WV or MS.
I think you are right especially if we have another outbreak like Disneyland.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:43 PM
 
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I think you are right especially if we have another outbreak like Disneyland.
If we have another outbreak at Disney, (which is not a school) then we will know that the mandates did nothing whatsoever to remedy the so called, "problem".
 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Science FACTS!

Changed Facts - Business Insider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supers...tific_theories

https://www.newscientist.com/round-u...the-textbooks/
 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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If we have another outbreak at Disney, (which is not a school) then we will know that the mandates did nothing whatsoever to remedy the so called, "problem".
or an outbreak at school. or outbreak anywhere.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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So you feel laws making murder illegal to be "coercion"?
Laws for a speed limit or stop light to be "coercion"?
Laws against theft to he "coercion"?

Or just laws that you don't like?
Wow, now not vaccinating is akin to murder?

More kids die from getting a ride to school than walking, shall we mandate walking to school? Mandate Ritalin for those with ADHD?
Mandate all stay home until completely free of flu symptoms? Stomach viruses? That would be a lot of missed school but would be safer for those around school with Asthma or other issues that a cold or flu would aggravate.

How far we going to go with mandates? You people act like thousands of kids have been dying of Measles all around you. None have for years. Most people vaccinate. Outbreaks will happen regardless in CA because we have a lot of foreign travelers. Sometimes that's just life.

But what has changed is that vaccine makers are asking for incentives to making vaccines. Well, I guess they got what they paid for after paying the government of CA. Mandated capitalism in a for profit healthcare system. Just wait, it will hit everyone, not just those kids who don't want a shot. You'll get what you ask for soon enough. Adult mandates are just around the bend. I can't wait to see how willing all the adults are to have mandates imposed on them or they can just lose their jobs or get arrested. I think the tone will change soon.

Time will tell. I'll be watching from Arizona.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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or an outbreak at school. or outbreak anywhere.
That's all it takes for people to just give up their right to have control over what is put into their bodies. One outbreak with no deaths.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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That's all it takes for people to just give up their right to have control over what is put into their bodies. One outbreak with no deaths.
Hysteria works wonders. It's seems to have caught on for a whole bunch of things lately, garbage can meet freedoms. "I'm so afraid, where can I dump these freedoms?" It's unbelievable. I guess people are a bit complacent on what it's like without them, they forget. Hopefully they study up and remember before it's to late to change it.
 
Old 08-05-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I wonder if in 50, 100 or 500 years those people will look back on us and laugh that we thought pumping ourselves full of junk would make us immune for diseases...just as we laugh at bloodletting. Bloodletting was the cure that doctors and scientists proclaimed as FACT to the masses!

Scientist used to say that a Brachiosaur was FACT!

Science used to say the universe was a constant.

http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0...ienceworks_20y
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